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07/10/11, 10:05 AM
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.................Yes , and that truck has been driven TOO close too a Telephone Pole , as I can see the curved crease in the bed , drivers side ! Without the crease he would be asking around $12,500 is my guess ! , fordy
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07/10/11, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by fordy
as far as 5.9 availability in the 2000 to 2003 year model range which is most of the trucks have very high milage figures like 200,000 to 350,000 ! And , they're asking from $12,500 up too $20,000........... too much $$$ for a truck with too many miles . , fordy 
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200,000 miles on an older Cummins is the break in period.Thats why they cost more.300,000 and running like a champ isnt unusual,go to the diesel forums and read the mileage threads.
Why do they command more,people dont sell good running long lived trucks.They drive em.If they do sell to get a new truck,they want to sell old one for what its value is.
You get what you pay for,add up those miles and economy it pays out the added expense real quick.
I paid 6800 for a 97 with 200,000 miles.I looked for a few months to find one and drove hundreds of miles looking at em to get one.Put 3,500 into it to dial it in.Rebuilt front end,brakes,lights,tires,alt,starter and new batteries.
Worth every cent,toughest vehicle Ive ever owned,hands down.Awesome 4x4.I DONT get stuck,at all.
Yup,rare as hens teeth,would have liked a stick.... even rarer still,but did get one that had a beefed up auto trans in it so all in all,Im a very happy camper.
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10/20/11, 01:50 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: south alabama(Hartford)
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Originally Posted by nathan104
Stick with the International built diesel engines. The Ford 7.3l powerstroke is hard to beat. I just went through this same thing and after much research ended up buying a 96 F-350 with the 7.3 powerstroke. The newer diesel are built by caterpillar I believe, but are much more complicated and more expensive to work on. . On these trucks, the transmission is the weak link so make sure to have it thoroughly checked out. I get 13mpg. Mine is the single rear wheel 1ton, crewcab, 4wd.
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ford has never used a cat engine,and they have all been built by navistar since the 6.9s
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10/20/11, 02:06 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Michigan
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For you old Ford Diesel owners, the starter problem is a myth. With the diesel being heavy to start, the power of the two batteries can weld the washer to the nut on the ground wire. If you take off the washer, put on a new one for about 4cents, truck will start like new.
You will get about 3 warnings from the truck, when starter won't crank. Turn it off, on, truck cranks and starts. The truck is just dead when key is turned, no clicking by starter. So on that crank and start of truck, you just hike to the hardware store and get some new washers, put them in the glove box to put on when truck doesn't crank no matter how many times you turn the key.
We had an 89, 7.3 diesel that this happened on. Went to the Ford Dealer who said "you need a new, $400 starter!" I said no, we would put it on ourselves, got a pull start and drove home. Called my mechanic friend who worked on a fleet of Ford diesels then. He told me the trick about the washer, so we changed the washer and starter roared to life. He said this was a VERY common problem with the diesels, and never was the starter's fault, despite the stories.
Have to say that those washers lasted between 4 to 6 months, before welding themselves and grounding out the starter. Depended on how much the truck was used and started in that time frame. Our truck was usually used hauling trailers and on vacation, not a lot of daily miles.
We sold the truck last year, after being the second owner from 6 months on, over 300,000 miles of enjoyment in the vehicle. Just was finally rusting to death, though it still hauled things fine.
We NEVER did buy a new starter for it, sold it with the original starter. Tossed in some washers too, after telling the buyer about the "welding issue" on the ground wire.
I still miss it, was one of the best trucks ever with that great engine. Our mechanic loved it. We got between 13-18mph, depending on the load behind. This was a crewcab, longbox dually truck. Could pull just about anything you tied on behind.
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10/20/11, 05:46 PM
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Location: NW Georgia
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I've heard lots of bad and no good about Ford's 6.0 litre diesel engine, but the other engine sizes seem to compare favorably to GM and Dodge. Friends/family who have the Cummins 6 cylinder diesels in their Dodge trucks seem to like them, not very powerful but almost bullet proof and with good fuel economy.
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10/20/11, 06:05 PM
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Location: W. Oregon
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No diesel in the 1/2 ton ford. I would go Chevy, better engines 4-8 years ago. Diesel, the Cummins and stick for hauling....James
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10/20/11, 06:18 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Missouri
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Originally Posted by am1too
I'm not looking for a 4X4 so transfer case wouldn't be a problem ever. If I need a 4X4 I'll get my tractor.
Is the 6.0 a Ford engine or the IH T444? What are the parts like for an IH T444? Are they hard to get? Could one mount a comminns in a Ford without much trouble? These computer run vehicles are something else.
I had a big rig with a cumminns and loved it. Yeah I know it is a diferent engine.
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Check out www.fordcummins.com they have all the parts needed to drop a 5.9 cummins is a ford truck. Not that hard a job. Ford has been using the 5.9 longer than Dodge has, they are in their medium duty trucks. I am in the process of wedging a 4BTA cummins in my F150 (3.9 liter) Folks that have done this are reporting 30-35 MPG. Will see next year when its done.
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10/20/11, 07:00 PM
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Too many fat quarters...
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: SW Nebraska, NW Kansas
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seem to compare favorably to GM and Dodge
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Since when is GM considered a ruler by which to measure diesel pickups???
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10/20/11, 09:32 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Oklahoma
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Since when is GM considered a ruler by which to measure diesel pickups???
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I think that is a very good question.
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10/20/11, 09:33 PM
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7.3 both IDI and later are good motors.....almost as good as a Cummins...6.0 are JUNK-stay away,unless you like repairing motors...the best of both worlds of course is a Ford with a Cummins in it....Fordcummins.com has bolt in kits great website....I have a Chevy PU that 1 of these days I will put my 4BT in...
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