How many of you live relativity close to "trashy people"?

When our town home sold 12 months ago, we paid 23 grand for 5 acres with a small fish pond. It had been chopped off of the North end of our 70 acres 3 owners before us.

Now nobody will have a chance to dare be crude and call me white trash. The ONLY remaining view is enjoyed buy the cattle up the other side of the holler. Besides, I have a farmers tan!

That's one good thing about living in the rainy PNW. We have some friends who have every car they ever owned dumped on their place. All are buried in grass, trees and bushes that grow over anything left sitting around. You'd never know they were there. I think our place is about the only one on this road that you can actually see driving by. Their place, their choice.

Thank you meka

Filth is filth and junk is junk. Filth needs to be cleaned up, junk needs to be organized or tossed out. it sounds like the guy that inspired this thread was trying to buck paying the dump fees that he would have to pay for his rubbish removal business.

One persons trash is another's treasure

My folks live in the country with about 12 houses nearby, all of them utterly and spotlessly clean. The pride of ownership in that little area is unbelievable! Their neighbors are great people who have worked hard, built homes, and taken care of them.

A few years ago, a family with some 'creative financing' bought the house next door.

There are now piles of trash, new mosquito problems, rats living in their barn, and the grass is so tall that that it would clog a New Holland baler. There are also two crazy dogs that they let roam freely, junk cars sitting in the drive, and bag upon bag of household trash stacked in the backyard because they stiffed the trash collectors so badly that they no longer pick up trash there.

Those folks paid $230,000 for that house, but I don't think it would bring $50,000 now.

They have hurt themselves the worst, but they have diminished their neighbors property values too. The property taxes are still the same for everyone: Way to high, and there won't be any adjustment because of the dump next door.

I would like to know why people think it's okay to use racial slurs(ie. white trash, redneck, hillbilly) against people but would never dream of saying a racial slur about another race?

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I keep reading 'white' trash, 'white' trash.. Sounds racist to me.

HAH! Nicole, you must have been typing just seconds before I hit 'enter'!! I was thinking the exact same thought!

Need to give the 'white' trash thing a rest, seriously.

ETA----And FWIW, I developed a saying years ago for this very subject... "One man's trash is another mans' trash".

We keep the side of our property that faces the rural road clean, neat, mown, and lots of pretty roses, shrubs, and fruit trees. The back of the property contains the animal pens, gardens, greenhouse, outbuildings, the barn, and dh's garage and machine shed. It is all business back there--work oriented. Most of it is, if not a bucolic scene of rural bliss, at least cleaned and fairly neat. The rest of it is messy in spots, especially the garage and machine shed, where things get built. I'm sure someone would see that and flip their lids. I don't care, we work back there, and that's the most important consideration for me.

It's probably because it was an accepted classification for certain people and they did exist just as Okies did. And it wasn't just in the South. I was born in a proper house with proper wood siding and a proper shingled roof. One needed only walk 5 minutes to tarpaper shacks and families with 5 or 6 kids. Had two really close friends when I was about 10. Father white and mother half-breed. Five kids in the family. Home was black tarpaper roof and asphalt brick siding and one big room. Three towns in a row on the Wisconsin River had their own little shanty town. My mother's side of the family suddenly shows up in a proper house during WW1. Took years for me to understand why she knew all of those families that were still living in those shacks in the 1940s and 1950s. That was part of her roots, my roots, and some of those extend way down to New Orleans. Possibly many were relatives. That side of my family may have been white trash long before the Civil War. They were quite often less fortunate than the black slaves as the slaves at least had permanent homes and a job. White trash had neither. They were a separate class of people then but without an official designation. Negroes had mulatto, quadroon, and octoroon designations. When they reached octoroon, they could then be accepted as white trash and they were and proud of it. Something in our country's society changed with laws telling us that many thousands of years of normal human existence was wrong. I know some who are 2 or 3 generations removed from living as day-to-day white trash and they may be surgeons. But there are also some who live in the cheapest housing and have only the basics which would have been considered luxuries in their grandparents time.

So I've rambled, but for reason. When I was growing up, there were Negroes and Darkies. Then someone decided that they were gone and replaced with Blacks. Didn't please everyone so they became African Americans. That only works as long as those Negroes are American citizens and not my local friends from Cameroon, Ethiopia, Kenya, Nigeria, and Tanzania who are here on permits and visas. No such problem for the two centuries or so of white trash which have always been here. But perhaps that's wrong. Instead of white trash, perhaps White Trash would finally give the accreditation that our blood deserves. The Scandinavian half of me can be traced back to a proud ancestry of farmers and soldiers. The more I learn of the other half, the more proud I am of it even if it was derived from an octoroon who came up the river from New Orleans.

Final comment, don't knock the present-day "white trash". We may be one step below the rest of the population but the only example for you to have someone to look down upon. We're doing just fine down here as white trash. Looking down is hard on the neck. Instead of complaining about how we live, look up instead. It's not difficult to stay ahead of us but if you keep looking back, all you will see is us gaining on you.

Martin

Redneck and Hillbilly ain't slurs, I is one.

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Bingo! The price is freedom is not free...

You may not like what they're doing but it's their land. Perhaps you can grow some trees on the borderline to "shield" your view from the "trashy people" over there.

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White trash, hillbilly sound like slurs to me but if people give power to words then they are controlled by the words. I have been called the above and worse don't bother me in the least. Because when the shtf a good chuck of this population will be them and trying to learn hunting and fishing from "them".

Let me say that when I owned my $230,000 home I kept it painted, mowed and weeded, since we were all on top of each other. If someone came over and told me I needed to edge the little 12 inch piece of grass between the curb and sidewalk more often than twice a month as they did they would have been run off. This is one reason we bought our 75 acres.

How close together are these 12 houses, if there is a barn? How hard do you have to strain your neck to see this "mess". I would hate to have rats nearby, but if the rats are in their barn, how does anyone know? Household trash should be stacked in a bin and disposed of at least monthly but PLEASE Don't tell me I have to pay trash hauler. WV requires me to do just that, but the State of Rick and Ann hauls their OWN trash. We sure are Rebels. If all of the other owners use weed and feed, and hate clover, dandelions and violets, do I have to CONFORM, and nuke my lawn? "Great People" with "perfect" exteriors do not prevent others from having tall grass and parts vehicles. Short of laws and HOA there is no way to maintain a "perfect" view, other than owning the view.

I am curious: What is creative financing anyway?

Quote "Final comment, don't knock the present-day "white trash". We may be one step below the rest of the population but the only example for you to have someone to look down upon. We're doing just fine down here as white trash. Looking down is hard on the neck. Instead of complaining about how we live, look up instead. It's not difficult to stay ahead of us but if you keep looking back, all you will see is us gaining on you."

Very well said, thank you!

And somehow I don't picture you as 'white trash', Martin.

Not as much as you might think, even the runner varieties!

Clumping Bamboo, which you can use in zones 9 and warmer, is not invasive, and it is slow growing.

Running timber bamboo, which is the variety that I mentioned, which will grow in zones as cool as 7a-b, is more invasive, but not as much as you might think.

There is a place near to me that, 23 years ago, planted a bunch of P. viridis. They were hoping for an "instant fence", and pretty much got a nice screen in 4 years.

They ignored it COMPLETELY after that.

Now, it has JUST gotten to the point where it is creeping outside of the fence. Now the folks have to run their lawnmower in front of the fence once in spring to keep it under control.

Controlling bamboo is VERY easy. It only shoots up new bamboo once per year, in spring. So, you run your lawmower over the new culms in spring and that takes care of it for a year.

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We've got plenty! We've got the section 8 trailer park with the junk cars, fighting roosters,lots of traffic and a regular visit by the police. Then we've got the other single dwellings with more roosters, more traffic, and more police. I have no need for TV, just sit on the front porch and watch the drama. Plenty of prescription drugs for sale, no prescription necessary. One was so bad the health dept. finally came over the smell and raw garbage in the yard. Luckily they lost the house and a good neighbor bought it. It's been almost a month of him working every day cleaning the yard and it almost looks just trashy now. He owns a backhoe and dumptruck and he's just starting to make a difference. The house is so bad he might just burn it down, the stink is so bad I don't think you could get it out. Heck the dirt outside stinks from all of the garbage and the dog crap.

http://therogersvillereview.com/story/11597
Here's one of my ex neighbors. They lived 3 houses down, his parents owned the place my neighbor is trying to clean up. Best part is they were keeping other people's kids, druggie day care anyone?

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I am curious: What is creative financing anyway?[/QUOTE]
When I did a lot of work for a real estate company, creative financing was when you engineered the "income" of a family to meet the requirements for the property you wanted to sell them. In one case I remember, a couple of uncles were moved in, which brought the total income(with their SS check) high enough to qualify. Another one, the head of the real estate company gave a family member a job for a few weeks in order to show an elevated income, to qualify for the property. Basically creative financing means lying to the lender.

Hmmm....that's what my dictionary says for Fraud.

And that is exactly what it is.

It sounds as if a city dweller in NYC has no ideas of what it is like to live on country property!!

I have issues with the town dwellers at the bottom of the hill, coming up this way to dispose of their old cars, trash, and used furniture along the sides of the road, or on a pullout/ someones drive with a locked gate. When they do get caught every once in awhile, they plead that they thought it was OK to dump their trash/ junk on someone's posted pasture/ timber property. Or that they try to get access to timber company land, where they think that their dumped refuse will be no problem! The property up here is bordered on two sides by the timber company, so I sometimes have to go by the piles of trash left by folks not residing up here!

So I guess that some of those city folks are too cheap to pay, for disposing of their trash!!

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