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04/20/11, 07:56 PM
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hating the 'burbs!
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Originally Posted by braggscowboy
No rules or regulations that can get anything done.
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Ha! This cracks me up, as most of what I see posted on this board is railing against the restrictions those same "rules or regulations" put on people who are trying to grow a garden, or raise some meat for their family.
Can't have your cake and eat it too, sorry.
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04/20/11, 08:56 PM
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The poet Robert Frost said it best:
" Good fences make good neighbhors."
I grew up in a white trash area, and except for some of the violent people there, I was happy living where I lived and living with the people I lived among. I didnt mind the run down houses, broken fences, abandoned lots, and roaming dogs. We use to let our dog go roaming also. I still live in the same area but the problem now is that most of the people in the neighnorhood, the very same people I grew up with who were basicly white trash, think they are all rich, living in the suburbs, and have become snobs. Come on, give me a break, just because you can live beyond your means do to credit doesnt mean you get instant class.
I rather live an enjoyable casual life in a run down house in a run down area then live in an uptight, over priced area filled with snobs who want you to conform to their lame version of life.
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04/20/11, 09:19 PM
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I like a kept up property. but with that said (and with a touch of irony), I moved here almost 2 years ago and dug out the homesite from woods. It has been alot of work and I'm sure many who drove up would consider this place trashy..........still. I have gained a new respect for people who actually created a homestead from raw woods and didn't just move into a house with land or put up a house on an empty field (not taking anything away from those folks of course). I use to complain about my dirt yard until I realized I wont have time to mow it if I ever get any  grass .
It has taken every spare moment to just try and get some organization to the place...sheds up...piles of stuff organized, drive way cut out, water lines run etc,etc. While I want my own place nice and tidy...I would have been more than ----ed if someone would have crammed there own ideas of what my property needed to look like during all this. Thats the reason we moved to the unzoned county.
Oh.........I also live in a trailer for now and have two washing machines and a dryer in the yard awaiting further instructions. :happy0035:
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04/20/11, 09:43 PM
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I think I stirred up a hornets nest. Maybe I did not state this the way I should have. No, I don't in any way disagree with the way he lives, you are right he, or they have that right. I did not explain this properly. This may be the best they can do other than, as I said they haul trash, the kind that should be in a landfill and I do mean hauled in by flatbed trailer. Paper, couches, carpet, broken furniture, brush and such and dump it within 25 feet of the road and the paper, sack and other debris blow out in the road and it is nasty up and down the road. I had rather see him burn it, although there is a no burn rule where there is a trash service in the county. There is a person that lives across the fence from me that cleans out HUD houses and has for years and brings in all the trash and burns it from time to time and covers my place with smoke sometimes and trash blows over, but I have been dealing with it. As long as he don't burn off my place and don't get too many sacks from Wal-Mart blowing over on me, or my animals don't get sick from the smoke. Then I will deal with it and live and let live.
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04/20/11, 10:12 PM
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I am the trashy neigbor lol. THis winter while my shop was full of others projects i was working on when I needed something doone I tend to do it in the drive way lots of metal i nthe yard plus the 2 tons of aluminum scrap I sorted in the drive way off a demo job. Alot of folks comment about my trucks and tracxtors and junk but its mine if I didnt want it there it wouldnt be there lol. I did have one guy cry about my yard being un mown. I said if you want to mow it bring your mower. Last I heard of that as in the summer I work daylight till past dark.
I did have one neighbors FIL tell me that next time my dogs were out even on my place he would remedy them. I have 5 acres across from his SIL and D and there yard is perfect. I have a purdy peice of land but te top of the ridge and almost unseen is my junk pile. About an acre of parts I use. E complained in the winter he could see one orangefender on a truck bac there from about 400 yards. I told him if anything happened to my dog even if it wasnt them I could line the road with combines and trucks.
Been quiet ever since. Im usually the first one most folks around here come to when they need a part or help with something. I tell the whiners I made a living selling parts lol.
I do have a problem my dogs got in my trashbin and dumped it a few times I pick it up usually within a day. If you want rules like that move to town or buy all the land around you. I buy each tid bit of land around here I can as a buffer. One day I hope to have enough land I can move the county road around the place.
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04/20/11, 10:56 PM
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Yep, all my neighbors are "trashy". I'm thankful they are  If I need a part and it ain't in my junk, I know one of them will have what I need, and be willing to share.
Property value falling? Not here....the price of scrap metal makes it worth a lot more.
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04/20/11, 11:38 PM
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One of my basic rules is:
If land ever comes available, anywhere near you, you buy it, regardless. If you choose not to purchase it, you forever relinquish any rights to complain.
I've bid on three tracts, that border my place... ended up getting one. As it turns out, the most important one, controlling access.
Sorry for your trashy neighbor problems.
I don't have outright trash, but I do have piles of iron, steel, pipe, logs, lumber, bricks, stone, etc. No one can see it, unless they come to my house... absolutely zero 'drive-byes'
If you can't find a property, where you control the viewshed, and once found, buy up any and all lots/acreage when it comes available... well, murphys law says you'll get your polar opposite antagonizer...
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04/21/11, 12:29 AM
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Again, the things you mention Texican, we all have and need. Again, I am talking the things that you throw away in your kitchen and bathroom etc. The iron and things that is used on homestead is nothing like what we are talking about. No I would not complain if it was good stuff like you are talking about.
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04/21/11, 01:02 AM
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For what it's worth, the first motto used on US coins was "Mind Your Business". Ben Franklin thought that that was an good one for all to follow.
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04/21/11, 07:20 AM
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I am sure my neighbors to the east think I am trashy.
Their 5 acres is manicured, flower beds, trees, lovely drive way......
My 5 acres doesn't look like theirs. It's not 'trashy', but it's not "McMansion" emaculate.
Um, I am in the country.
I keep my 'trash going to the dump' in trash cans.
They go to the curb once a week.
My newest car in the driveway is a 2002.......with 300k miles on it.
Nothing on jacks....
I pay my taxes, I don't make a mess, and if I am not up to my "neighborhood minded neighbors" expectations......too bad for them. Plant more trees so you can't see me!!
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04/21/11, 07:33 AM
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If land ever comes available, anywhere near you, you buy it, regardless. If you choose not to purchase it, you forever relinquish any rights to complain.
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Yep, I learned that lesson the hard way!
About a year after DH#2 and I built our house, the 20 acres next door came up for sale. He wanted to buy it, but I didn't want to go deeper in debt. So we passed ... and the people who bought it put a doublewide on it. One of those deals where buying the trailer took all their available funds, with nothing left over to put in a proper driveway, or any sort of outbuildings or landscaping. Just a big trailer plunked in a muddy field with crap strewn all around it. Blargh ...
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04/21/11, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Paquebot
For what it's worth, the first motto used on US coins was "Mind Your Business". Ben Franklin thought that that was an good one for all to follow.
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That's perfect. The problem is, the "trashy" folks are the ones not minding their business. Look at the statement as an ACTION statement, each of us should actively MIND (or tend to) our own business. People with junk everywhere aren't. They're minding anything but.
Why does it seem that neat, organized, tended and planted = homeowner's association stringent stomp-on-other's-freedoms restrictiveness? I'm just kind of confused. I thought taking pride in one's environment was a good thing.
Sure, have your usable scrap piles, and while you don't have to catalog and label everything, having it organized enough to not be a hazard or to be able to find what you're looking for seems desirable to me. And I wouldn't mind in the least seeing neatly stacked piles of this or that, piles that look like they're there on purpose. I would mind seeing just heaps of indiscernable stuff, rotting and rusting and harboring vermin and such. And there's no reason you can't pick up true trash and send it to the dump.
So that's how I mind my business. Usable stuff cared for enough not to look sloppy, trash to the dump.
If other people want to live in a less mindful way, that's their decision to make (until it impacts me in a way in which I can seek legal recourse).
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04/21/11, 10:53 AM
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Sometimes u just have to deal with trashy neighbors to get a piece of property. We bought our land because there are no restrictions. We can do or have whatever we want on our property. We also bought it because we drove around to see what the neighbors properties were like before decciding. There arent any trash heaps around us on our street that we could see, but its not summer time yet. The neighbor across the street has a nice little house and clean yard, we cant see the neighbors to one side cause they are burried in the woods.Living in town our yard looks a mess I think cause we only have a small shed out back. We have 3 dogs 4 kids and tools piled all over, bicycles leaning up against the fences and toys strung everywhere. We keep our yard mowed, trash picked up etc,but it always looks cluttered thats why we put a privcacy fence up so no one would have to look at it. LOL we keep the yard cleaned up after the dogs so it doesnt smell but Iam sure the neighbors wont mind when we move. lol Our one neighbor is real nice and likes us and our dogs, but our other neighbor just moved in and they are arrogant jerks. I am just happy we will be moving to the country. lol
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04/21/11, 11:04 AM
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We have crazy hoarders next door. I just figure the crappier their place looks, the better mine looks.
Demeter
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04/21/11, 11:16 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by City Bound
I rather live an enjoyable casual life in a run down house in a run down area then live in an uptight, over priced area filled with snobs who want you to conform to their lame version of life.
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I'd like to have the printed up and put posters all over the US. Love that philosophy. It's actually very wise. I would leave out the word "lame" though.
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04/21/11, 12:01 PM
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"I don't understand the attitude of people like that."
You don't need to understand it....it's their way, not yours. Focus on what you own. put up fences, plant trees, and leave them be.
I am the trashy neighbor....but no one knows that unless they fly over my house, as nothing shows from the road except a bit of gable and the peak of the roof on our 2-story farmhouse.
The neighbors chose to have the Forestry Department deforest their land as protection from wildfires. Looks like a bomb landed. I chose not to do that. They have been glaring at my woods ever since. They walk their dogs across the road to poop and pee on my side....even though they have 12 acres of their own. One day as I was heading to town, I caught them walking toward my side with a snake over a branch...I rolled down the window and told them to keep their snake on their side of the road, please...they are still miffed about that. I guess they figure wildlife should all go into my woods so their land stays tidy?
I didn't move to the "end of the middle of nowhere" to be bossed around by the tidy nazis.
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04/21/11, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by kaitala
That's perfect. The problem is, the "trashy" folks are the ones not minding their business. Look at the statement as an ACTION statement, each of us should actively MIND (or tend to) our own business. People with junk everywhere aren't. They're minding anything but.
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BUT, that's according to your standards. Humans, as a rule, are individuals rather than programmed robots. I grew up often having a sick calf or piglet in the house. And there was a generous supply of old equipment to fabricate a new part when needed with the nearest implement dealer 30-40 miles away. Junk is merely just something that's waiting for a use.
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04/21/11, 12:22 PM
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Why can't folks see that the OP is talking about garbage, not junk? Garbage as in stuff you'd tote to the burn pile or put in a can and haul off/have picked up.
Why is wanting to live where random trash doesn't blow across your yard, where the smell from food garbage and rotting/molding furniture etc. doesn't bother you considered a 'city' mindset?
Since the OP lives next door and has to deal with the fallout on a daily basis, I figure yeah, he DOES have a right to complain. Havin' useable piles of junk and equipment sittin' around is one thing. Havin' someone else's household garbage interferring with your right to enjoy your property is another.
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04/21/11, 12:51 PM
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We live in an end unit townhouse. Our next door neighbor is a hoarder. She had been raided by the hoarding squad before we moved in and wasn't allowed to live in her house for the first couple of years we lived here. She cleaned it up enough to move back in about 3 years ago. She is a nice lady but you can tell she is still hoarding. Our kitchen deck overlooks her living room and she has stuff stacked in front of the windows. We have never seen her put trash out for trash day in the three years she has been back in her house. Since she moved back we have had bugs which we never had before. My husband had to go knock on her door one time and he said the smell through the closed door about knocked him over. I guess the only good thing is that this time she doesn't have cats which she did before.
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This is also a fire hazard for two reasons. First, obviously, because it increases the chance of a fire starting due to unsafe conditions (ie. piles of newspaper can spontaneously combust) and, secondly, it's very difficult for firefighters to put the fire out due to the confined fire space and difficulty accessing the building. Not to mention the obvious health hazards (mould, etc.).I think this would make it your business.
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04/21/11, 01:16 PM
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i've no doubt some of the people on this street(not the immediate neighbors though) think i'm a bit trashy too. this is an area of million dollar or so homes. their front is the same as Laura described. i've been growing potatoes on one side of my rock garden ever since i moved here. where ever i can find room i put a veggie or herbs etc. in. half of the lawn i took for a flower bed and i tried to make the other side look good without spraying chemicals and whatnot on it. never looked half as good as the others. i've been out this morning turning that over. i intend to bring in soil and plant spuds there. no laws against it .
i might start a trend but it's not likely. ~Georgia.
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