How many of you live relativity close to "trashy people"?

Fowler · #21 04/20/11, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by zong

If they ain't on my land, it's none of my business.

I agree.
But if you're starving animals...it becomes my business.

KMA1 · #22 04/20/11, 12:30 PM

It is his land. My county just got rid of the self rule ordinance that let the county adopt ordaninces which were selectively enforced. Like weeds. Old cars. And undefined junk. Perhaps you should consider a nice house in the suburbs on a small lot inside the city limits where you can get your desire enforced on all the landowners.

sirquack · #23 04/20/11, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by norcalfarm

My neighbor has several people living in trailers on his land to protect their mj crop and with them has come all kinds of garbage that I look at from my front porch. Originally I was rather upset but have decided that it's not worth stressing about. It's their property and whatever junk they choose to store on it is their business. I wouldn't want somebody else telling me what to do with mine.

I know California allows legal growth and possession of MJ, but I know I for one, would not want to live next to a bunch of pot heads. They do some very strange stuff when hopped up on weed.

That is when they are not sleeping on the couch watching Cheech and Chong movies eating Cheetos.

newfieannie · #24 04/20/11, 12:42 PM

Same here Fishead but i'm working on it too. right now i only have a path from my computer to the door. company's coming and i threw everything in here. but yes, i have one next door.trash all over the yard,rakes and shovels still there from winter. door hanging off shed ,no fliers picked up all winter etc.

i live in the city and yes, it's supposed to be kept a bit after the way.but it's his backyard and only i can see it. and i will never complain to city field. doesn't bother me.i can only see it from the dining room window. i have a fence all around and as long as it doesn 't spill over i dont really care.if it gets too unsightly i can put up heavy drapes and besides they are the nicest people and i love the kids. i thank my lucky stars. living in the city it could be so much worse.~Georgia.

lambs.are.cute · #25 04/20/11, 12:43 PM

I have a neighbor sort of like that - though not as bad. But they have loose trash all over their yard and when it is windy it blows into my pasture........ it blows a lot around here. After yesterday's windstorm I had a bunch of styrofoam from them that I had to beat my lambs to. I really don't care what their yard looks like as long as it stays in their yard. IMO that's what trees are for and I am in the process of putting trees in.

#26 04/20/11, 12:47 PM

I let my neighbors mind their own business so they don't feel like they have to mind mine. They do the same for me.

tinknal · #27 04/20/11, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by bluemoonluck

I usually agree with this 110%....however the OP says

If the value of YOUR property is adversly affected by how your neighbors take care of THEIR property, then it IS your business. Ever try to sell your house or get a home equity loan when your neighbor's house looks like a landfill? Yeah, good luck with that......

I have no advice to offer, just wanted to point out that the way your neighbors take care of their property can, in some cases, affect your bottom line.

I don't think anyone owes you your property value.

About 15 years ago in a suburb south of the Twin Cities a landowner watched as the suburbs crept right up to his property line. At the time the border of his property was the line between residential, and agricultural. He wanted to sell the land, and of course wanted to get the big bucks that residential property gets. It was a nice large wooded property and when he applied to get rezoned the neighbors raised a storm. You see, they liked looking at the pretty woods and didn't want to ruin "their" view by putting in a bunch of houses there (insert irony here). They swarmed the zoning variance meeting and prevented him from getting his status changed.

He surrounded the entire property with hog wire and put 300 pigs on the property. The neighbors were enraged and cried bloody murder to the county. Of course the county told them that since the land was zoned agricultural he was entirely within his right to put as many hogs on the property as he pleased.

Be careful of what you wish for when it comes to telling folks what they can or cannot do on their property.

How many here would side with the OP if the issue was that the neighbors chickens and goats reduced their property values?

RedTartan · #28 04/20/11, 12:54 PM

I have a neighbor that has a lot of stuff all over his small yard. I'm planting a blueberry hedge so that I don't have to look at it.

Fowler · #29 04/20/11, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by tinknal

I don't think anyone owes you your property value.

About 15 years ago in a suburb south of the Twin Cities a landowner watched as the suburbs crept right up to his property line. At the time the border of his property was the line between residential, and agricultural. He wanted to sell the land, and of course wanted to get the big bucks that residential property gets. It was a nice large wooded property and when he applied to get rezoned the neighbors raised a storm. You see, they liked looking at the pretty woods and didn't want to ruin "their" view by putting in a bunch of houses there (insert irony here). They swarmed the zoning variance meeting and prevented him from getting his status changed.

He surrounded the entire property with hog wire and put 300 pigs on the property. The neighbors were enraged and cried bloody murder to the county. Of course the county told them that since the land was zoned agricultural he was entirely within his right to put as many hogs on the property as he pleased.

Be careful of what you wish for when it comes to telling folks what they can or cannot do on their property.

How many here would side with the OP if the issue was that the neighbors chickens and goats reduced their property values?

...That's the best story I've heard all day....karma will get you everytime..

Jerngen · #30 04/20/11, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by A.T. Hagan

I let my neighbors mind their own business so they don't feel like they have to mind mine. They do the same for me.

What he said.

If you buy in an unrestricted area, that's the risk you take.

laughaha · #31 04/20/11, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RebelDigger

Yep. Sad fact is that the majority of them are Dh's relatives. Not just them though, I have been cleaning up trash on this 6 acres since we bought the place in October. No one for over 40 years has made a dump run apparently judging from the ages of the "artifacts" I have run across. Seriously, people, we have a 12 foot trailor and I fill it and the back of the pickup and have taken over 30 LOADS to the dump yet am not halfway done. I don't think the property value here is much affected by it though since no one in their right mind wants to move out here unless they were raised here like Dh.

Oh I feel your pain!!!! I swear the trash grows in the dirt!!! Get one area picked up and the next spring you have to go all over it again- I think the freezing/heaving is bringing it up. SOOOO annoying, especially since none of it was ours, but it is now

Our trashy neighbors are one of my BIL's- they are AWFUL, throw it everywhere. I wouldn't care except it's spilling out into our driveway. Got tired of stopping the truck to toss their crap back in their "yard" so now we just run over it with our truck. Also LOVE that I have to drive through a dump everytime I come/go from home.

TheMartianChick · #32 04/20/11, 01:09 PM

I live in the city. A few years ago, we had trashy neighbors around the corner. This affected us because anything in their back yard spilled over into the backyard of our rental property next door. They didn't really have much space at all for kids to play and the kids were always on our property.

We finally hired someone to install a privacy fence so that we didn't have to look at their trashy yard. We did call code enforcement because there were violations, but that doesn't force anyone to control their kids. We didn't want to be the kind of neighbor that always tells the kids to 'stay offa our grass'. We figured that it wouldn't do much to improve the neighborly relations.

ChristieAcres · #33 04/20/11, 01:18 PM

We can't see our neighbors, which was the goal when we moved here. In the Winter, we see the upper part of the nice home closest to us through the trees. Our property has a buffer of tall Evergreen almost all around it, with just a few spots filled in w/Alders. Most of the properties where I live are cared for reasonably well, but there is one in particular you can't help but notice. Anytime we drive up our driveway to go to town, we pass a property with their pig pen in the front yard. Does that bother me? Nope, like to see the pigs, could care less. Next to the pig pen is something curious. A growing pile of garbage, obvious stuff that they don't want, and they keep adding to that large pile. I have wondered about it, but I don't consider it any of my business. However, I think it is too bad due to other folks judging them for it (they do, just the way it is). We don't have CCR's and are zoned Rural out here. We don't have a frontyard, but a flower bed out front, in front of our U-shaped driveway (rest is natural). The backyard will be slowly converted to Permaculture. If I had my way, there would be zero grass here, as we have no need for it.

Harry Chickpea · #34 04/20/11, 01:22 PM

Hmm,
Trashy neighbors = lower property value.
Lower property value = less taxes.
Less taxes = more money.

Maybe you should go over and thank them? I mean seriously - after what the banks did to property values, without even being neighbors, you are worried about property values now? I'll take the cash from lower taxes.

Wojo · #35 04/20/11, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by A.T. Hagan

I let my neighbors mind their own business so they don't feel like they have to mind mine. They do the same for me.

The neighbors yard, which we pass each time we go down the road to/from our house, looks like a tornado hit a flea market.

That being said, I agree with you. To each his own, and I do my best to maintain the very frame of mind you suggest.

||Downhome|| · #36 04/20/11, 01:49 PM

the best thing to do if it bothers you that much is buy it, if your not the only one it bothers then perhaps they would be interested in helping to procure it.

there was a town not far from here, a guy bought a building and tried running a restaurant, was not working out so he was going to do a topless thing. there was a certain group that was dead set tried everything they could to legally stop him. they ended up buying him out. building still sits empty as far as I know.

New neighbors always mean changes, though if its not mine its not mine.

we have a few new neighbors, guy behind us thinks he bought a ranch, hes been building a petting zoo, his next addition is cows. no biggie but I worry he may try to run to many and that may affect us in the use of our yard. should that be the case I have a solution along tinknals, I have unrestricted use of the neighbors 10 acres next door.
the cow guys house is 20 foot of the property line, there will be a pig sty there should the cows become issue. and perhaps a flight pen full of guineas.

the guy has been less then willing to be a gracious neighbor thus far so I think it may be necessary to enter into a compromise.

mekasmom · #37 04/20/11, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by tinknal

How many here would side with the OP if the issue was that the neighbors chickens and goats reduced their property values?

I think they mentioned a llama, didn't they? And how long it took to get electrical ran or a well?

Some people are just better off living in towns with HOA because they do want that forced structure. And if that is the case, then they should live there rather than in the country.

laughaha · #38 04/20/11, 02:06 PM

mekasmom- I do agree with you to a point, but if you have to literally run over their trash to come and go from your own home, it's a problem. Chickens and goats are fine (if taken care of and not just tossed in with my animals). My situation is probably different than others though......

katy · #39 04/20/11, 02:39 PM

Braggscowboy, I certainly feel your pain and yes there is a trashy neighbor way to close. This property was trashed, don't know how long it took.

Just so we are clear, in this instance, trashed is; full hanks of baling twine, covered with grass and partially rotted, binds up the mower blades really bad and breaks the spindles. Oil filters of every size imaginable three inches into the ground. Rebar, electric fence wire hundreds of feet of it- just laying around, tires - car and tractor, plastic and metal soda cans, old clothes, broken glass, that's just a partial list off the top of my head. NAILS too. Sure could use a metal detector............

Even with all our picking up, it is still so bad that we don't consider it safe yet to have anyone come in to cut hay or to fertilize and seed, for fear of flat tires and /or equipment damage, so we keep trudging along. Most of this was not visible because grass had grown up and covered it, but the mower always finds it.

The only possibility I can think of is, County Health Dept, if there are water wells that could be in danger of contamination. Also County EPA, regrding tires and oil. Take pics if possible, show them around county courthouse and ask for feedback. I firmly believe that trash disposal cost can be a factor as well as fee to haul away old cars and farm equipment.

Good luck to you.

the mama · #40 04/20/11, 02:45 PM

Its redneck camoflage. No one will rob them, thinking all they have is junk. I have a collection of cars, all run but one with no engine. A 71 challenger is NOT junk, and it runs. Misc lawn chairs, gates, cattle panels, rolls of fence, fence posts, small animal cages, small animal carriers, feeding buckets, waterers and water troughs. Lots of trash cans, some with trash, others with potting soil, dme, feed bags, newspaper. Stacks of wood in place for various projects. I AM the horrible neighbor. However nothing is visable from the road.