USDA and Cass Sunstein Want To Outlaw Gardening

suzyhomemaker09 · #41 04/13/11, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Oggie

Cats have found a way to decrease the amount of oxygen in the atmosphere and some folks are having trouble thinking clearly.

*hugs*

Dutchie · #42 04/13/11, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim-mi

There is no rebuttle for flaming boneheads like Cass S.
A lead pill between the eyeballs would make short order out of the issue.
The Obummer has pinned a badge on way to many knuckleheads that can/will make life nasty on this country.

They must be eliminated.........

Wow. Are you serious?

ronbre · #43 04/13/11, 05:58 PM

of course they do, lets just call it ..landscaping.

DJ in WA · #44 04/13/11, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JJFarmer

I might have missed something but all I read from that article was someone was taking raw milk interstate and got in trouble. There was no mention of any other foods, especially home gardening. And it was just stating a fact that there is no "right" as in a freedom of speech, etc that says we HAVE to have raw milk in order to be human.

Personally I think some of those regulations that they have are a good idea. It cuts down on every tom, dick and harry milking a cow in a muddy barn, letting it sit in the sun for two hours while he does his chores and then taking it for a 4 hour car ride in his hot trunk in order to sell it to some family who'll feed it to their baby.

Now all this talking about raw milk has made me thirsty.

I’m impressed by the arbitrary nature of it all.

What is so dangerous about going interstate? If you step foot over the border with raw milk, you will kill someone, but if you drive 14 hours from southern to northern Texas, no problem?

Why is one danger worse than another? Why not protect us from all? Why is one allowed to take their children out on the highway at risk of death, but raw milk is unacceptable? My nephew drank raw milk for years and was then nearly killed on a four wheeler.

So it’s a “fact” that we have no right to drink raw milk? What do we have a right to do? Only that which the government allows? That is completely backwards. We now have to ask permission for any action we take?

The biggest killer now is obesity. Why not have a government approved diet? There is no right to hamburgers, ice cream or French fries. Pizza should be outlawed also. Calories should be regulated. There is no right to leisure. Should be mandatory exercise for all – I say at least 30 minutes of aerobics daily.

I also have no right to keep the money I earn. To pay for regulations to be written, and for the guys with guns to enforce them, a guy with a gun will come to collect my money to pay for it all if I refuse.

haypoint · #45 04/14/11, 04:51 AM

Actually, the locally grown, fresh, organic food movement has grown to the point the evil empire cannot stop us now.

I'm not quite ready to throw away my foil hat, but I'm starting to believe that home grown, non GMO vegetables can win this battle.....

haypoint · #46 04/14/11, 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ in WA

I’m impressed by the arbitrary nature of it all.

What is so dangerous about going interstate? If you step foot over the border with raw milk, you will kill someone, but if you drive 14 hours from southern to northern Texas, no problem?

Why is one danger worse than another? Why not protect us from all? Why is one allowed to take their children out on the highway at risk of death, but raw milk is unacceptable? My nephew drank raw milk for years and was then nearly killed on a four wheeler.

So it’s a “fact” that we have no right to drink raw milk? What do we have a right to do? Only that which the government allows? That is completely backwards. We now have to ask permission for any action we take?

The biggest killer now is obesity. Why not have a government approved diet? There is no right to hamburgers, ice cream or French fries. Pizza should be outlawed also. Calories should be regulated. There is no right to leisure. Should be mandatory exercise for all – I say at least 30 minutes of aerobics daily.

I also have no right to keep the money I earn. To pay for regulations to be written, and for the guys with guns to enforce them, a guy with a gun will come to collect my money to pay for it all if I refuse.

It is not a fact. You can drink all the raw milk you want. However there are states that don't allow you to sell it. If you live in a state that allows you to market your raw milk, you can't "export" it to sell in a state that doesn't allow it.

That old saw, " I know someone that drank raw milk for 50 years and it didn't kill him, so all raw milk must be safe for everyone." just doesn't wash. The imune system on those boys down on the farm is vastly different from your average consumer. I know someone that went 50 years without a seat belt and lived to tell about it. So what?

When 99% of the milk sales in this country for the past 50 years are pasturized milk, you want to make the claim that raw milk is safe due to low number of reported illnesses? The USDA made their case in the link supplied earlier.

Becides, this is a thread on government ban on home gardening. There is no sucha thing. Nada.

Paquebot · #47 04/14/11, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by haypoint

Actually, the locally grown, fresh, organic food movement has grown to the point the evil empire cannot stop us now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVrIyEu6h_E

I'm not quite ready to throw away my foil hat, but I'm starting to believe that home grown, non GMO vegetables can win this battle.....

There is one problem with your post. You mention GMO vegetables. Do you happen to have a list of those which exist and are available? I've been trying to get hold of at least one for the past 10 years or so and everyone is somehow conspiring to deprive me of that goal. If you work for a previously unknown top-secret vegetable development company or otherwise have information never before made available to the gardening public, please do feel free to be the first to let us know. And in keeping with forum policy, your anonymity will be preserved!

Martin

Tricky Grama · #48 04/14/11, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by YuccaFlatsRanch

Thank you for posting the link. Us guys over 60 need all the rest we can get. :-)

If you think that the Government doesn't think they can control every action you might want to take you are crazy and need the TIN FOIL HAT. That's what REGULATORY CZARS DO and Cass Sunstein is the REGULATORY CZAR. In charge of dreaming up and implementing Government Regulations. NOW WHY DO WE NEED A REGULATORY CZAR - to accomplish whats needed around the Congress and the Courts - who needs them anyway??? IF the Regulatory CZAR isn't there to make more and more government regulations - then WHY DO WE NEED HIM AT ALL?????

Thanks Yucca.
Sorry, but all you who just think everything's dandy, PLEASE research Sunstien a bit. I realize most of the things he wants for the country probably will not get thru, but everyoe should know what his goals are. Like attorneys for animals. Like NO hunting. Like required 'meatless days'. And those are the mild things.
Sunstein has the power to 'regulate'. He can change laws.

Shygal · #49 04/14/11, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Wolf mom

Hey come on folks - if you want to refute this - or don't want to believe it, do your own research & lets see your refrences.

Once or twice asking for credible resources is OK, but when I see it on so many posts, I'm beginning to think it's just another sneaky way to discount the poster rather than doing research & putting forth a well thought out rebuttle. .

IF someone makes a statement they should be able to back it up. I could post "I heard that the government is going to make us send our firstborns to them to be indoctrinated into an Obama campaign camp" and then said nothing, people would be right to call me on it.

Oggie · #50 04/14/11, 09:28 AM

I heard that it was the first-born sons, and that's why it's especially important to celebrate Passover, this year.