USDA and Cass Sunstein Want To Outlaw Gardening

I might have missed something but all I read from that article was someone was taking raw milk interstate and got in trouble. There was no mention of any other foods, especially home gardening. And it was just stating a fact that there is no "right" as in a freedom of speech, etc that says we HAVE to have raw milk in order to be human.

Personally I think some of those regulations that they have are a good idea. It cuts down on every tom, dick and harry milking a cow in a muddy barn, letting it sit in the sun for two hours while he does his chores and then taking it for a 4 hour car ride in his hot trunk in order to sell it to some family who'll feed it to their baby.

Now all this talking about raw milk has made me thirsty.

Sneaky? Asking something clearly and concisely in a public arena is hardly sneaky. How much more upfront and open can someone be? If there's credible proof, bring it with you. Nobody wants to chase rainbows.

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Robin

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s111-510

someone else put in the full text but I thought I would point out the status

I think this is one of those urban myths that keep making the rounds, over and over and over, popping up all over the place, and then showing up again and again.

I wonder if Mrs. Obama will have to stop having a garden too?

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That seems about right since Obama is president. He said while campaigning that people in the US had no right to eat what and how much they wanted, keep their heat at 70 degrees and drives the cars they do.

Bob

Here is the source of this that the OP didn't link...

An article

http://www.farmtoconsumer.org/litigation-FDA-status.htm


The FDA's official response to the court where they state it...

http://www.farmtoconsumer.org/litiga...%20support.pdf

Of course not. Don't you know that Obama and his entire regime-including his family- are exempt from all those pesky things us proletariat have to conform to?

From a link above:

in FDA's view, there is no fundamental right to enter into a private contract to obtain the foods of choice from the source of choice.


If that is how the FDA feels...scary indeed.

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Again...those were raw milk issues...both links.....
If your state deems raw milk illegal to sell then it's against the law to sell or buy it....
There are states where you can grow a small amount of marijuana for your own personal use..California and some other states have medical marijuana laws. I really don't think your perscription will keep you safe in another state..( not sure of the laws concerning this ) but I know certainly if you are in a state that allows you to grow for personal use does not allow you to freely sell it...nor should someone be able to come to your state from another to purchase from you to take back to their home state where it is an illegal substance.
It's apples and oranges folks...really
I still don't see how any of this relates to not being allowed to grow veggies in your back yard.

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Putting aside raw milk, and addressing S510. It is my understanding that mirror bill, containing the Tester Amendment, did pass and was signed into law. Much of the language remains as in the original version.

I have actually read the blasted thing, and while it seems on the surface to not have anything to do with "back yard" gardens, you forget that the Sec. has over a year to make up any regulation at all. Without review, mind you. There are some very scary things in that bill, honestly. The way it is written, anything that ends up in a commercial food chain, falls under their authority.

Which is backed by Homeland Security and the TSA.

They can also seize your LAND, on suspicion alone.

Truth, read it yourself.

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I don't see where this is limited to only milk. Milk may have been the catalyst?

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If you think this will end with the sales of raw milk , you have another thought coming. Today it will be milk, tomarrow it will be honey, day after will be potato`s and so on and so forth. I still say raw milk if produced right is as healthy as any other product you can buy in the store today. So you will have to pry that milker from my cold dead hands if you try and take that away from me. > Marc

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P. T. Barnum was purported to have said: "You can fool some of the people all of the time, all of the people some of the time, but cannot fool all of the people all of the time." This thread appears to comprise all three types!

Martin

Stelth gardening, like moonshine. All those revenewers will just disappear.

Yeah that goes well past my limit on where their regulatory authority should end. No right to buy the food we want from who we want to buy it from? Ouch..

But the case seems to stem not from someone getting raw milk from a dairy, but from folks contracting with a buyers club, and the buyers club buying the milk from the dairies and distributing it to the folks. That's a little different kettle of fish, though I still think it should be allowed.

Seems obvious the good folks at the larger dairies are lobbying hard against the raw milk industry.. Possibly with a few good arguments as well.

Cats have found a way to decrease the amount of oxygen in the atmosphere and some folks are having trouble thinking clearly.

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Less barking! More wagging!

personally folks,I don't pay attention to any of the fascist crap from DC...none of my cows are registered,inspected(by gov't),I grow what I want,eat what I want,etc.If someone comes by and tells me what I can or can't raise/grow,I figure coolness-free fertilizer.We spend too much time worrying what the DC fascist will do...JMO

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pssst - anyone wanna buy a hot green bean???

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A few years back there was talk in Manitoba about making it illegal to grow potatoes in the home garden.

The big producers were blaming the home gardeners of creating pockets of disease and bug infestation by not spraying on a weekly basis.

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