question about coyotes

[QUOTE=Ravenlost;5058807]Unless they are starving they'll leave your dogs alone. And, if they are starving, they'd have little chance against big healthy dogs!

If they're hungry they will come after anything....doesn't matter what the size. They gang up on it and attack en masse. Be careful and have good aim!

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Yet again I enjoy your sense of humor!

We live on a farm that abuts hundreds of acres of pasture and 30 - 40 acre woodlots at the back and all the farmsteads are more towards the front closer to the hwy and its very sparsely populated around here. There is a pack that runs all over the back pasture of our place and the other pastures and woodlots running for miles in either direction and they can be heard but rarely seen. We did have one though earlier this spring that would run along the hwy getting into garbage on garbage day (everyone pays a local guy to come and haul off two bags a week for $20.00 a month) but he got hit by a car. They dont seem to bother much around here but we have an abundant rabbit, squirrel, possum, armadillo, skunk population so that may be the reason.

We rather enjoy hearing them at night but they sure are elusive.

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I have come to the conclusion that my shotgun will come in handy. I am a female but I have darn good aim.lol

I havent seen them yet but we usually are at our property during the day. We'll see once it gets nicer outside and we stay all night there. WE found their scat in one area of the property. THere is a big flat area kinda on a hill then about a 2 foot incline about 50 foot from our camper. All the scat we've seen was there. We saw deer tracks and coyote traps.

I dont think we'll have much problems cause when we were at the property las weekend we heard our neighbors rooster crowing so they have critters and Im sure they'd rather eat at their place cause our place is pretty much empty besides a empty camper and a fire pit.

There is not really anything you can do to keep coyotes away from your land. I don't expect your 160 lb dogs would be in any danger. One thing you can do to discourage them around your trailer is to shoot or shoot at any you see close by. That will tend to make them avoid the immediate area. By the way, they are nothing to freak out about. I have a very large population around me, primarily due to broiler farmers not excluding from their compost piles where they "compost" dead chickens. They are interesting ot watch, and also spend time watching what we do. For instance, one pair and their offspring almost always come out and watch when I bushhog. Ocasionally, they will go out and catch hispid cotten rats as I bushhog, but usually they will find a high place, like on top of my neighbor's hay bales and just sit and watch. Never had any problem with them with my dogs or my cattle.

Yup or at least as much trouble..

They are all over the edge of the suburbs here in Dallas, they keep the loose cats on their toes in my neighborhood at night.

Down where my land is at they run in packs, but I've had no issues with them yet. Lots of folks with LGD's around, and my neighbor has a large pack that runs loose with a couple of very large great danes in the mix. I have heard em yipping their way along at night from the north of me, but they get silent while passing through my area, you can tell where they are as the LGD's in the area start barking, and they don't start sounding off again until they get well south.

My sister nearby has lost several cats, but that could be a large owl or a bobcat doing that, or even local dogs. I'm thinking bobcat or owl but it could be a coyote I suppose.

They are natural cowards, usually will only kill small dogs when in a pack.

After reading all the comments I can tell that some of you have no real understanding
of coyotes and their behavior.

They are pretty danged smart, cunning and brave.
It's not uncommon for 1 to sit and bark and whine trying to lure a dog out to see
what the problem is. Then the rest of the pack will join in and they will kill the dog.
Doesn't matter the size of the dog.

We have 4 great pyreneese and they still try the above. Our pyrs are smart enough
not to fall for it but it does get their attention.

It's also common for 1 or 2 coyotes to raise a fuss on 1 part of your land to distract
or lure your dog in that direction and then more coyotes will come from another
direction and raid the chicken coop, etc..

Doesn't seem to matter if there is an abundent source of wild life for the coyotes to eat either.

Dogs are the best way to deter coyotes but the dogs need to work as a team (pack) and know they are expected to do it and what to do. Drop a lone dog on a chain stake out there and it is lunch meat. Back the dogs up with a hot fence if needed.

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My pyrs trained themselves to guard their goats against coyotes and wild dogs.
Starts off with 1 heading to the problem.
1 of the other hangs back a short distance between the problem and the goats.
The last of those 3 pyrs rounds up the goats and heads them to a safer place
If the problem requires it, the pyr that was hanging back heads to the problem also.
At no time will the 1 guarding the goats leave the goats.

If the problem is more extreme, the 2 pyrs dealing with it will give a very distintive
bark that means for me to get my butt moving and head out to help. If I don't hear
that bark but it happened, then either the old indoor pyr or the catahula will start
raising cane until I catch on.

Those pyrs do a real fine job for us.

Actually, they are natural predators, usually just want to eat. Unless they're starving they've got no reason to go after something that can put up any kind of a fight.

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I'm with RJM...coyotes are cunning, swift, and are often deadly to dogs. Out here we even have Coywolves, coyote wolf crossbreds. And in the west some coyotes grow darn big. They are casual about running away from people in some cases. I beleive on National Geographic recently there was that show about the gal killed by coyotes.

And yes they do lure LGD dogs out by barking a certain way, or will send a bitch in heat to lure male LGD dogs out then kill them. Running mixed sex LGDs....always smart thing to do. Because a female LGD won't respond to a coyote bitch in heat like your males will - she'll probably just want to kill it.

Run enough dogs to cover your stock, and you'll lessen chances of losses.

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Most of the 'hound hunters' around here are seasonal. They work for a local INDEPENDENT Ag. plant, so from early December to late January about ten or so vehicles run around and track their dogs while they chase down those Coyotes!!

Some Coyotes will put up a fight, and it can be a lot of fun, the hunters talk on MARINE channel 16 and you get to use your guns if one gets cornered. A lot of times the Coyote will get away. Ignorant land owners prevent these hunters from enjoying their hobby by not permitting trespass of dogs on "their" lands.

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I wouldn't let them on my land either. And trust me, I'm anything but ignorant.

We had a woman attacked and killed by a coyote 3 years ago and 9 or 10 agressive encounters over the last couple years, most of them resulting in bites. It has gotten to the point where the government put a bounty on them. Trap, shoot, or snare any that come close, make sure not to waste the pelt.......

It's not safe to run them with hounds around here. Too many roads, too much traffic.

I'd just run them on my own land. The hounds would knock them down and rough them up. Then let them get up, give them a head start, and do it again and the hounds stopped at the fence.

Sassy booger coyotes would stop as soon as they got under the fence and sit there thumbing their noses at the hounds. I stopped that by tossing my lightest Deerhound over the fence. I called her back before they got to the woods, because I figured if they could get her into the woods, they'd kill her. But they never sat outside the fence again. They got off my land and didn't stop running until they were in the trees.

Guess I'm another of those "Ignorant land owners". Had a group of hunters tearing up my wheat field with their trucks chasing coyotes and even drove through a couple of fences. After a little "discussion", I Don't think they will be back.

eta: Don't get me wrong, I don't abide coyotes either. Carry a .308 in my truck to help keep them thinned out or at least cautious.

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I used to have problems with coyotes during the day, as you can see in this picture. It's midday in the fall and it's taken from inside my house, so your idea wouldn't work so well for me mr bird....lol
I got fed up with that and wanted my chickens to freerange so I adopted one big dog, and late last fall I got a 1 yr old maremma to back her up. No coyotes or fox in the yard any more. The LGD's are worth their feed bill every month.


He's eating the crabapples that fell off the trees.

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We had to have a discussion about this as well.

"Can't you read the no tresspassing signs?"

"Yep but the dogs can't read."

"Well next time they will be dead courtesy of a .270."

They haven't been back.

Us ignorant land owners don't appreciate vehicles flying up and down the gravel roads at 60 MPH through blind hills, etc (they use radio collars and track the dogs in their vehicles) and dogs have a perpensity to chase livestock, not to mention vehicles tearing up row crop ground and pastures.

Every post in this thread is correct. Also, every post in this thread is wrong.

Coyotes are incredibly adaptable. No two populations are alike and they change to exploit the local environment. What coyotes will always do in one location they will never do in another.

As far as hound hunters, the local ones are extremely good hunters and good stewards of their sport. I've never heard of any problems. They talk to local landowners and most are happy to have them around. They do not tear up fields. Of course they cannot always prevent a dog from crossing posted property, but thankfully state laws recognize this and the only caveat about hounds on posted property is that you cannot kill game there. Your hounds can cross the property, and you can enter the property to retrieve a dog, but you cannot kill game.

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