Anyone try or think it's possible???

**Cabin Fever** · #21 03/30/11, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by tinknal

Cabin Fever, what is a "Lobster Mushroom"?

The bright orange funnel-shaped mushrooms below. They are delicious just sauted in a little butter and salt and sometimes garlic. Lobster mushrooms actually have the taste and texture of lobster.

They are actually a white Russula mushroom that is infected by another fungi that covers the mushroom in orange-red.
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prairie lily · #22 03/30/11, 11:27 AM

"Field Guide to Edible Wild Plants" by Bradford Angier

tinknal · #23 03/30/11, 11:36 AM

Cool, CF. Where are they on the safety spectrum? Since there are puffballs in the pic I am guessing you find them late summer-early fall? What kind of habitat do they like?

ronbre · #24 03/30/11, 11:52 AM

of course it is possible, my grandfather was a hunter, gatherer, trapper..he had a huge garden of his own but also ate fish and game..

before the last few centuries most people did..

some of the hard things to come by are things I'm limiting in my diet anyway such as high carb foods..(rice, wheat, flour, pasta, sugar, etc) and I don't need any of those things so for me it would be easier than for someone who used a lot of carbs.

**Cabin Fever** · #25 03/30/11, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by tinknal

Cool, CF. Where are they on the safety spectrum? Since there are puffballs in the pic I am guessing you find them late summer-early fall? What kind of habitat do they like?

In our mushroom book, the rating is "CHOICE."

Yes late summer, in shady forest settings. We typically find them peeking out of the forest duff a day or two after a rain.

tinknal · #26 03/30/11, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Cabin Fever

In our mushroom book, the rating is "CHOICE."

Yes late summer, in shady forest settings. We typically find them peeking out of the forest duff a day or two after a rain.

I'm pretty sure that I saw them last year while gathering Hen-o'-the-woods. We need to get together and have a mushroom fry!

big rockpile · #27 03/30/11, 12:53 PM

CF from what I see they look like Chanterelle.

big rockpile

**Cabin Fever** · #28 03/30/11, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by big rockpile

CF from what I see they look like Chanterelle.

big rockpile

I had to look up Chanterelle to see what they look like. The difference is the Chanterelle is more yellowish whereas the Lobster is almost flourescent or blaze orange. Also, the gills on the Chanterelle are open whereas the Lobster gills are completely filled in with the orange fungus.

Tinknal, a mushroom hunt and dinner would be fun! You're invited any time.

big rockpile · #29 03/30/11, 02:15 PM

My Inlaws was always afraid I was going to kill their Daughter and Grandkids with what I feed them

big rockpile

Fowler · #30 03/30/11, 02:29 PM

I love morel mushrooms...but they have to be sautéed in butter first. My son when he was younger found a record morel and everyone came to see how huge it was...he was 8We also dug for genseng root and replanted the berries...I bought my first remington drying out genseng root. I do believe I sold it for 240 a pound...that's after drying.

oregon woodsmok · #31 03/30/11, 02:43 PM

Go for it New York Rebel. It's not like you can't call it off and go for a Whopper if you find you can't harvest enough to eat.

You'll never know if you can make it work, unless you try it.

kirkmcquest · #32 03/30/11, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TxAprilMagic

How long would all that edible stuff last???? on an island that you might not be able to leave if all heck broke out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_island

As of the 2000 census, Long Island had a population of 7,448,618, [2] making it the most populated island in any U.S. state or territory. It is also the 17th most populous island in the world, ahead of Ireland, Jamaica and the Japanese island of Hokkaidō. Its population density is 5,470 inhabitants per square mile (2,110 /km2). If it were a state, Long Island would rank 12th in population and first in population density.

I don't know how long it would last if all heck broke out. But that wasn't the posters question. I won't argue your statistics, I can only speak as someone who has lived on the north fork for many years...long island is a big place and most of the population is in Nassau county...the north fork and even south fork are all farm country with low population densities.

Its easy to hear 'long island' and think of it as one thing. Whats the population on the north fork? Whats the population of towns like cutchogue, jamesport and mattituck? What you don't know would surprise you.

TxAprilMagic · #33 03/30/11, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by kirkmcquest

I don't know how long it would last if all heck broke out. But that wasn't the posters question. I won't argue your statistics, I can only speak as someone who has lived on the north fork for many years...long island is a big place and most of the population is in Nassau county...the north fork and even south fork are all farm country with low population densities.

Its easy to hear 'long island' and think of it as one thing. Whats the population on the north fork? Whats the population of towns like cutchogue, jamesport and mattituck? What you don't know would surprise you.

But that wasn't the posters question.

It wasn't??????????????????????????

Please re-read the original post/question.

#1 Yesterday, 09:36 PM
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Anyone try or think it's possible???

Just wondering if anyone has tried or if anyone thinks it would be possible to survive on only wild edibles??? I want to give it a shot and was just wondering if anyone else has tried it or if anyone does it??

HermitJohn · #34 03/30/11, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Vet

It all depends of where you live. I was doing it for 3 weeks in Panama and gained weight. But I also had meat added to my diet. If you are talking about wiled editable plants sure you can do it for some time but without meat for protein you will get sick in about 2 or 3 months.Even the vegetarians today have to have a source of protein and you will not find it in plants that grow wild.

I take it you never actually tried doing it vegetarian? Its a myth you need concentrated source of protein, most humans in western culture eat far too much protein. Everything contains protein and basically if you get enough calories from nature, you get enough protein. Getting enough calories on a foraged vegetarian diet would be hard unless you had lot nuts, fruits, etc. Its not like the junk food aisle at the supermarket where everything is loaded with fat and sugars. Heck European peasants basically lived on turnips until potatoes made it from new world and then they lived on potatoes. Supplementing it with occasional animals poached from the aristocrats land or occasional fish or whatever. But survival meant getting enough calories from whatever source available, not specifically getting meat or dairy or other animal products. Animal products just happen to be very concentrated source of CALORIES.

tinknal · #35 03/30/11, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TxAprilMagic

But that wasn't the posters question.

It wasn't??????????????????????????

Please re-read the original post/question.

#1 Yesterday, 09:36 PM
NewYorkRebel
Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 18

Anyone try or think it's possible???

Just wondering if anyone has tried or if anyone thinks it would be possible to survive on only wild edibles??? I want to give it a shot and was just wondering if anyone else has tried it or if anyone does it??

Where did the OP say anything about "all heck breaking out"?

tinknal · #36 03/30/11, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Wind in Her Hair

deformed infected mushrooms -sounds so yummy, huh?

I always soak them in salt water for a couple of hours to kill any buggies that might be enjoying the soil that the mushroom pushes up and then closes over.

There's really only one precaution with Lobster mushroom - you want to make sure that its a bonafide Russula mushroom thats infected and not some other variety - like say -a Corpse Finder or Death Angel.

that would be bad.

I'm just sayin'.

Russulas will have that distinct concave dip in the center and the infected mushroom will have all the gills closed up - and they love to show back up in the same spot season after season.

Once their have shed their spores and there is a white powder everywhere around them - they are pretty far gone. Get 'em when they are fresh!

We should do that, tinknal - come about September - we'll be ready!

It's a date! I'll murder some hens while they are still babies, they are soooooo good that way!

TxAprilMagic · #37 03/30/11, 08:34 PM

For Argument sake;

Poaching Wild Edibles;

Since there is no Wild Land left, picking Wild Edibles on any land other than your own would be considered a crime unless of course all heck broke out and 7 mil. + others of your neighbors would be doing the same thing.

Farm Land is private land. When was the last time you rode down the road and said oh my, Wild Land that anyone can use.
Now if I saw someone with a basket, bucket, box picking Wild Edibles in my pasture or my woods I would shoot first then ask questions.

Marsh Land is owned and operated by the State. It is taken care and managed by the River Authority or Water Authority. If you are caught on Marsh Land, which is a protected resource might I add, by the Game Warden you go straight to jail, you don't get to pass go , you don't collect $200.00,you don't get a free card.

County Park, Run by the County in which is resides. Protected by the Sheriff's Dept and County Park Ranger. If you get caught picking anything, even your own self in a County Park, you go to jail.

State Park, Is owned and operated by the State in which it resides. You get caught by the State Park Ranger picking anything including you wedggy, you go to jail.

National Forest,
National Reserve is owned and operated by the Federal Government. If you even think about picking edibles you go to jail.

So , unless you are starving, have your own land, the country is in total meltdown. or any other major meltdown, my suggestion to you would be DON'T DO IT.

tinknal · #38 03/30/11, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TxAprilMagic

For Argument sake;

Poaching Wild Edibles;

Since there is no Wild Land left, picking Wild Edibles on any land other than your own would be considered a crime unless of course all heck broke out and 7 mil. + others of your neighbors would be doing the same thing.

Farm Land is private land. When was the last time you rode down the road and said oh my, Wild Land that anyone can use.
Now if I saw someone with a basket, bucket, box picking Wild Edibles in my pasture or my woods I would shoot first then ask questions.

Marsh Land is owned and operated by the State. It is taken care and managed by the River Authority or Water Authority. If you are caught on Marsh Land, which is a protected resource might I add, by the Game Warden you go straight to jail, you don't get to pass go , you don't collect $200.00,you don't get a free card.

County Park, Run by the County in which is resides. Protected by the Sheriff's Dept and County Park Ranger. If you get caught picking anything, even your own self in a County Park, you go to jail.

State Park, Is owned and operated by the State in which it resides. You get caught by the State Park Ranger picking anything including you wedggy, you go to jail.

National Forest,
National Reserve is owned and operated by the Federal Government. If you even think about picking edibles you go to jail.

So , unless you are starving, have your own land, the country is in total meltdown. or any other major meltdown, my suggestion to you would be DON'T DO IT.

This is just simply wrong. I hunt and gather on public land all the time. 100% legal.

radiofish · #39 03/30/11, 09:24 PM

TxAprilMagic - now I don't know about the local codes and laws in New York... But in the National Forests in the West, mushroom picking is allowed. Here on Six Rivers National Forest, in the small towns right outside of the forest boundaries, there are 'mushroom buyers' set up on the roadsides..

Where I am at on the other coast, if mushroom pickers were to wander thru - then yes the County Sheriff would be called, and charges pressed. The property is posted "No Trespassing"..

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CF - nice mushroom pics....

Oldcountryboy · #40 03/30/11, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Norman

Everybody was doing it a few thousand years ago. I guess it was a fad.

Everybody done it till jobs and government subsidies came along, then everyone forgot how to survive!