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03/26/11, 09:20 AM
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Not quite the same as rocks flying through the air from blasting.
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You truly believe that rocks are flying through the air,hitting people's houses and NO-ONE has called the police or anyone??
REALLY?
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03/26/11, 10:06 AM
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I have only the internet versions of what's going on, I'm not there. Do I believe it? I am sure leaning that way. Do you believe a business wouldn't cut corners every chance they could and not really care until they get called on it?
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03/26/11, 10:13 AM
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You think a experienced powder monkey would take a chance on flying rocks with himself ,workers and equipment sitting around 
Sounds like someone is peeing down another's back and telling them it is raining to me :happy0035:
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03/26/11, 10:58 AM
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Hell, tell em to come to lewisburg, two of em in town right next to each other. THey are no problem, and you dont even notice them, other than seeing them. THey employ quite a bit of people.
BTW, I hang out down at beans diesel quite a bit. I like woodbury alot. And I just built the Fuel center out there in Mcminville at the Kroger.
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03/26/11, 11:00 AM
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Oh, and Blasters have alot to worry about, They can be personally fined, and have their blasting liscenses pulled. Not to mention deal with the ATF. More damage occurs from residential developments than a rock quarry ever will.
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03/26/11, 11:09 AM
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You think a experienced powder monkey would take a chance on flying rocks with himself ,workers and equipment sitting around
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From the link provided by Beeman:
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Some home owners feel that the flying rock coming off past blasts have caused significant damage to their homes.
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Feel??
wouldn't you KNOW that flying rock had caused significant damage to your home...because there would be damage and a BIG ROCK!!!
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03/26/11, 01:58 PM
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There's a rock quarry right on I-81 in VA. They must be fools because the police have to shut the interstate and all side roads when they blast.
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03/26/11, 02:07 PM
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There's a rock quarry right on I-81 in VA. They must be fools because the police have to shut the interstate and all side roads when they blast.
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Are the police closing the roads near the quarry in the OP?
If not,why not?
Obviously with "flying rock coming off past blasts have caused significant damage to their homes" this would make sense...
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03/26/11, 03:57 PM
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http://www.salisburypost.com/newscop...98quarries.htm
Here's another quarry with flying rock problems, a few other problems too.
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03/27/11, 10:11 AM
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THe reasin they shut the road down was more than likely they hit a fissure or under ground cave when filling the hole. WHen that happens it will put several times more agent done the hole in one spot and will have to set it off. Instead of shattering the stone it will bring it out in chunks and boulders. It appened one time at a Vulcan plant near here and also ad it happen on a road job in a cut. But its not a regular thing that happens alot.
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03/27/11, 06:23 PM
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We have a lot of quarries around here. Sand pits too. They are fine neighbors. They provide materials for building, monument building, grave stones, curbs, fill, etc. They provide jobs. They're not destroying the landscape or polluting. When they get done with a sand pit they grade it smooth in most cases and it is turned into a field. There isn't much level land around. It is wrong for the mob to take away people's rights. Bad, bad, bad. Don't go down that slippery slope. It will turn and bite you, hard.
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03/27/11, 07:20 PM
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If the Quarry is there legally, the "mob" has no sway. It is my belief that zoning prevents a lot of this mixing residences and industry from starting.
Interesting that the anti-zoning folks are speaking up. The "My land, I'll do as I like" folks assume that the world would be better without regulations. Quarries don't fill and level areas because they want to. It is regulations that push them into it.
Beeman's post shows the difficulty in getting the quarries to comply. Better to keep homes and rock blasting operations seperate. Zoning can do that.
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03/27/11, 07:30 PM
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Zoning IS the 'mob' having their say on what you can do with your land.
Those who desire to control what others can do have no issue with this of course.
Nanny statists.
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03/28/11, 12:43 AM
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I just looked at the quarry ( on Google Earth ) and I don't see a bunch of houses that close to it , could it be large chunks of fairy dust hitting there homes ?
If there houses had been hit in the past , as they say , they would of been screaming bloody murder and looking for lawyers to get the extensive damage fixed.
Bob
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03/28/11, 08:32 AM
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If there houses had been hit in the past , as they say , they would of been screaming bloody murder and looking for lawyers to get the extensive damage fixed.
Bob
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You would think that would have been the case....
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03/28/11, 09:45 AM
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The problem is poor planning. We need quarry's just like we need landfills. If county's would be proactive in land planning/zoning this wouldn't have been an issue. To many county's use outdated maps/zoning. For example, 25 years ago an area might be an area that was out of site, not useful, etc so they may have zoned it industrial. Now the area may be along a scenic highway, yet is has not been modified. I spent 6 years working on projects in East Tennessee and I saw alot of it there. I also spent 6 years doing the same thing in Florida and it was light years ahead because it was mandated by the State for Countys and Cities to do so.
When you blast you are required by permit to have several richter scales setup, including one at the nearest structure. In Florida the day we blasted we always got a complaint from someone (usually a friend of a city employee/board member) that we caused a crack to form in their foundation (even though after inspection it was obvious the crack had been there for a while). I always wanted to submit a permit to blast but not actually do the blasting so when we got a complaint that day we could go after them for fraud.
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03/28/11, 09:54 AM
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Perhaps people who choose to live near landfills,quarries,farms,junkyards,etc might think a little BEFORE living there.
Crazy thought I know. 
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03/29/11, 01:07 AM
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Perhaps people who choose to live near landfills,quarries,farms,junkyards,etc might think a little BEFORE living there.
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....and when the landfills,quarries,farms,junkyards move in next door AFTER you've bought your little slice of heaven?
When there are zones that prohibit high rises or prohibit subdivisions or are just for commercial businesses or zones with no restrictions that allow quarries, livestock rendering plants, solid waste or trailer trash, your investment in your homestead is a bit better protected.
Zoning isn't for everybody. Just for those snobs that want some thought to go into the development of their community.
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03/29/11, 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by haypoint
....and when the landfills,quarries,farms,junkyards move in next door AFTER you've bought your little slice of heaven?
When there are zones that prohibit high rises or prohibit subdivisions or are just for commercial businesses or zones with no restrictions that allow quarries, livestock rendering plants, solid waste or trailer trash, your investment in your homestead is a bit better protected.
Zoning isn't for everybody. Just for those snobs that want some thought to go into the development of their community.
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As I stated,we have zoning here in the county we live in,it has done little to stop growth but has stifled business.
In the county we are moving to,there is no zoning and people are free to do what they want with their land,as long as it doesn't impact other people's property.
Zoning is for those who are afraid and want to control,that has been amply demonstrated in this thread.
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