Hit a Deer

oldmania · #41 03/17/11, 08:21 AM

Here, I think they might charge you with "road hunting" which is illegal.

Hooligan · #42 03/17/11, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by fantasymaker

i am concerned for your lives and other readers here that's why i telling you this.

He must have been driving recklessly the evidence shows he had a wreck. He came very close to dieing. Think about that as you read the rest of my post. He came very close to dieing.

Often times the speed limit is higher than the safe speed obviously this time was one.
I'm guessing here the situation was caused by at least two things too high a speed and the woods being to close to the road for him to have sufficient time to react at that rate of speed. If you had changed either thing the accident might not have happened. If the clear distance on each side of the road was more he would have had longer to recognize the thereat and avoid it
or if he was driving slower aging he would have had more time to avoid a accident.
Of course you could clear the land back farther from the road but that's probably not practical for you is it?
Thus the only safe way to cope with the situation would be to slow down. He didn't do that he decided to take the gamble that this was a unexpected time for a deer to rush out of the woods and across the road.
He lost.

Reckless driving.

Lol your absolutely right. Speed has very little effect on telling the future.

You seem very hung up on the speed limit please remember its the maximum safe speed under perfect conditions. And yes you are right if one can jump out in front of you , you are driving totally recklessly.

That seems sensible to me.

lol...

65284 · #43 03/17/11, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Harry Chickpea

I've not heard of such a law. Deer can run and turn MUCH faster than a person, and change direction and speed faster than a car. I'm surprised that anyone on the forum could even consider "unsafe driving" as a primary cause of deer/auto crashes. I've been going past them at 35 and had to hit the brakes when one passed within inches of the front of the car. Deer are idiots around cars.

Just consider the source Harry. You've been around here long enough to know that you shouldn't be surprised at the nonsense he spouts. Poor fellow, he must be desperate for attention, that's what most of his posts are for.

oceantoad · #44 03/17/11, 01:11 PM

Have hit 2 in the last 6 months.

A big doe which cost me about $1300 that caught the rear and front driver side door, mirror, windshield, dent in roof.

Didn't get door dings fixed.

Second deer was small and dumb and only cost $375 taking out the grill and hood.

3 years ago a deer ran into a car I was a passenger in.

That was at 5 minutes till high noon on a Saturday on a 5 lane state highway.

On one trip to Arizona with the company, I stopped counting when I counted a 100.

I caught 2 with the Uhaul truck that I was driving on the return trip.

Lots of fresh killed deer every week on the way to work.

I might see 40 or more live deer in a 3 mile stretch before I get to the highway.

Thank goodness that the "everything is big in Texas" is not true of the deer.

houndlover · #45 03/17/11, 10:20 PM

I just have to laugh at the thought that slowing down and paying attention are going to save some deer. They literally hide in the bushes, on the darkest roads, and leap at the very last second, even if you're the first car that drove that road in a week. Seriously. The black tails actually hit more cars by running into the side of them than the other way around. Deer I don't much worry about, they're barely bigger than my sheep... now elk, there's an animal to watch out for, especially since they like to cross the road in herds. Be like hitting a bus.

wolffeathers · #46 03/18/11, 12:16 AM

Here's one I heard just yesterday.

Fellow classmate was driving home from school on roads that are designed with the woods far from the roadside(they are notorious for deer). So these roads are designed to give you the most opportunity to spot said deer. She got to the end of the road and was sitting at the stop sign. BANG! WTH? Gets out and a deer had run into the back of her stopped vehicle!

Suicidal creatures.

stickinthemud · #47 03/18/11, 12:43 AM

DH has been run into by deer three times. Once years ago in his Gremlin (stop laughing) and twice in his truck. All three times into the side of the passing vehicle.
On the other hand, one of my high school classmates was in a pickup that hit a moose in Canada. It landed on the roof & put him in a wheelchair. Be careful out there.

fantasymaker · #48 03/18/11, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by houndlover

I just have to laugh at the thought that slowing down and paying attention are going to save some deer.

GOOD GRIEF WHO cares about the deer? People DIE when hitting deer. It the people I'm worried about,there's plenty of deer.
Maybe it has to do with when and where I was raised. When I learned to drive in Alaska hitting a moose ( a VERY BIG member of the deer family) killed people every year, its way bad news. And it ALWAYS resulted in a reckless ticket.
Deer thank God are not nearly as deadly but there are so many car-deer accidents the the fatalities add up.Just exactly how many dead teens is it worth to teach them to blindly ignore the possibility that one can be pretty much anywhere any time?
In Over 4 million miles of driving Ive had 2 deer accidents one when he came from behind and hit the side of my van and once when the critter sucked me in he came at along the road started to bound away from the road went behind a tiny row of bushes and came-out towards me, yep my fault I wasn't paying attention for that critical half second.

sticky_burr · #49 03/18/11, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by FreightTrain

hit a doe 2 years ago on my motorcycle but hit her at about 20mph and neither of us went down

excuse me deer i had the right of way you didnt signal or anything .. ROAD RAGE

but yea during the day is odd.

CarolT · #50 03/18/11, 09:59 AM

Moose are a lot more deliberate in their movements. I can see where hitting a moose would get reckless driving, but I thought there were deer in Alaska? You don't say hitting one of them got a ticket? And someone driving 20 mph in a 45 zone to avoid those deer is going to get a ticket for reckless driving here... In Alabama

CarolT · #51 03/18/11, 10:01 AM

Oops, and to answer the OP, no such luck LOL And you're not allowed to keep it either, otherwise someone would shoot from the road and swear it ran out on them. Sheriff's dept takes them or they stay there

Jackie · #52 03/18/11, 12:39 PM

Around here we have very steep ditches because of snow removal/water run off etc. Many times when you are driving you absolutely can NOT see down the ditch from on top of the highway. Not even a little bit. I often wonder sometimes if cars have fallen off the side and no one has noticed (at very steep parts).

A friend of mine was going down the highway in the middle of the day. Going the speed limit...60mph, and a deer just leaped out of the ditch. No warning. No chance. You can't see them. THey also charge out from behind large bales, charge out from behind fences, charge out of the woods. If you are going the speed limit on the highway...60mph, you almost can't stop in time. And NO ONE in their right mind is going to drive all over the country at 30mph just because a deer *might* jump out. You would be a traffic hazard and get a ticket for that.

I have never hit one, but I have come darn close.

The worst is a moose standing in the middle of the highway at night. So far I have not seen eyes shining on them. You don't see them at ALL until the very last second and you had better slam on the breaks. Those will kill you for sure. We were in a 93 hyundai accent once and just stopped a few feet from the moose. And we had been going the speed limit.

halfpint · #53 03/18/11, 04:23 PM

I think somebody was in la-la land with that idea. My FIL has hit two deer in the past year in Alabama, and his insurance paid both times. About 10 years ago, a small plane crashed somewhere in Alabama when deer ran across the runway - I'm pretty sure the state didn't pay for that (unless it was a state plane).
Dawn

fantasymaker · #54 03/18/11, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by CarolT

Moose are a lot more deliberate in their movements. I can see where hitting a moose would get reckless driving, but I thought there were deer in Alaska? You don't say hitting one of them got a ticket? And someone driving 20 mph in a 45 zone to avoid those deer is going to get a ticket for reckless driving here... In Alabama

The Deer in Alaska tend to be where there are no roads....and Dog sized.
believe me them moose can be both fast and sneaky when they want......not to mention stubborn.

salmonslayer · #55 03/19/11, 08:59 AM

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When I learned to drive in Alaska hitting a moose ( a VERY BIG member of the deer family) killed people every year, its way bad news. And it ALWAYS resulted in a reckless ticket.

I did the Wasilla - Fort Richardson commute for years on the Glenn highway where each year there were about 400+ vehicle moose collisions and there was no mandatory reckless driving citations for the accidents. Moose were everywhere and you would often see 10 or 15 on the flats, I have had them jump out in front of me from under the Knik bridge, pop up on the S-curve by Eagle river and everywhere in between. And if you think its safer going about 40 mph when everyone else is doing 70 plus your not thinking safety and your going to cause an accident.

The only thing I agree with you about is that the deer in Alaska are a lot smaller than white tails or the big mule deer down south and that you need to be careful and lower your speed prudently in areas of high concentrations of deer, moose or elk.

tiogacounty · #56 03/19/11, 08:15 PM

Here in Northeastern PA, the wife and I have bagged eight of the "wood rats" and one wild dog.......so far. I'm hoping to last a few more decades, so I doubt I'm done counting.

fantasymaker · #57 03/21/11, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by salmonslayer

I did the Wasilla - Fort Richardson commute for years on the Glenn highway where each year there were about 400+ vehicle moose collisions and there was no mandatory reckless driving citations for the accidents. .

Were you there the year Provost Marshall issued the edict that said in a car-moose collision if you couldn't prove the moose was DRUNK you were going to be cited?
When I was beginning driving in Alaska ANY accident got you a citation. As the troopers on TV said in response to one reporters questions "Some times just leaving Home is reckless"

salmonslayer · #58 03/23/11, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by fantasymaker

Were you there the year Provost Marshall issued the edict that said in a car-moose collision if you couldn't prove the moose was DRUNK you were going to be cited?
When I was beginning driving in Alaska ANY accident got you a citation. As the troopers on TV said in response to one reporters questions "Some times just leaving Home is reckless"

I retired from there last May after 9 years stationed at Ft Rich off and on (due to deployments), My parents and sister lives in Wasilla, a son is in the AF at Elmendorf, a daughter lives in Willow and another son lives in Juneau. At least for the last 9 years they do not automatically ticket for Moose collisions or collisions with any other animal. Thats not to say you cant get a ticket if you did something foolish but I dont know of too many people making the Glenn commute that havent had a few close calls.

My elderly folks have moose come into their yard and eat my mothers flowers and bushes and peer into the windows. Its just a fact of life in the Last Frontier.

Now if you are talking about some non-combatant Provost Marshall sitting on his city but on base making edicts at some point or another thats different. Same idots hid on the FOBs in Iraq giving citations to Soldiers for having their reflective belts across the wrong shoulder or having dirty ACUs in the chow hall after coming in from a 12 hour patrol. Sounds like the same kind of buffoon to make those kind of blanket edicts to me.

Sonshine · #59 03/23/11, 11:59 PM

I use to live in Alabama as did my parents. They've hit deer with their car before. Never heard of the state covering the cost for the damages though.

pheasantplucker · #60 03/24/11, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Whisperwindkat

Yesterday, my husband hit a deer in our car. A friend mentioned that the state of Alabama is supposedly held liable for car damage from deer collisions. Anybody heard of this? I know I never have, but it sure would be nice to know. Thanks, Kat

What was a deer doing in your car???