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Old 03/09/11, 07:57 AM
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I am not sure this is the website for me as it appears that one must earn the right to express an opinion or ask a clarifying question and i am not sure how i feel about this.....is it that there are some who are afraid of dissenting opinions?
There is no such thing as a stupid question, when asked in innocence. If I ask "I saved tomato seeds last year, and kept them in my window sill, do you think they are dead"........That may look stupid at first, but for a newbie, it's an honest, sincere question.
Could someone post up something hateful like "wow you're dumb"? Sure. The world is full of jerks!! Thick skin and the ignore button takes care of them.

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If we are truly a community that is about "neighborly help and friendly advice" then why are some allowed to speak and others not. Seems to me if a community was unhappy with one of its members, then the community would take care of it......this member cannot even ask a clarifying question....seems a bit........what is the word I am looking for? hmmmm Can anyone help this newbie understand?
Some folks love drama and conflict. Those folks are pretty easy to spot.
Freedom of Speech allows us to show everyone beyond a shadow of doubt what we are really like.
Trolls and pot stirers are plentiful on line. They can hide behind a handle and a key board to spew their venom.
Again, ignore key and thick skin.

One board you can really 'let it all hang out', language is a bit looser, mods are not as strict, etc. Then on another board, you have mods who if they personally don't like the topic will totally delete it without reason.....because it doesn't match their personal preference.
Kinda like life.

Deep breath, ignore button, and thick skin, and you will be ok!
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Old 03/09/11, 08:29 AM
 
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I've been here for quite a while (6 years), mostly I read instead of post. I cannot express how much I've learned at this forum, I can give it credit for getting me through some pretty challenging situations on the homestead. I LOVE it!

BUT

I also have a hard time with reading some of the unnecessarily harsh/rude responses...
A few people could really work on being more kind in their posts, a few are consistently so rude I don't even read them.

In the end though, there is much more to learn here than there is to be offended about.
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Old 03/09/11, 08:46 AM
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why are some allowed to speak and others not.
Because in General Chat, you HAVE to first spend a certain unrevealed amount of time posting on other parts of the site. GC attracts a fair number of malcontents as it is (IMO) and this policy is to keep out people who are more into causing trouble than being really interested in what HT has to offer. Eventually new people are allowed to post there, and it's up to the moderators to decide when to open up the site to them completely. Remember they do this on their own time so don't ask them to rush to review your posting history.

Just spelling out for the OP what other people are thinking, because I think they are on to something. Mainegirl please enlighten us even briefly as to what caused your feelings about us - did you try to post in General Chat?
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Old 03/09/11, 08:55 AM
 
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My advice mainegirl is to have a bottle on hand while cruising HT. Works for me!
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Old 03/09/11, 09:50 AM
 
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Been lurking for awhile but made my first post on the S&EP forum last week. But, I post on all kinds of forums from boats, to cars, to survival to guns. If you post on any kind of forum there is a good chance you will get your feelings hurt. That is just how it works. Kind of how real life works too. You just shrug it off. No big deal.
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Old 03/09/11, 09:58 AM
 
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..................A thread after my own heart ! My guess is , is there are probably quite a few folks on here who have me on ignore , I don't let it bother me any , at all ! I'm not PC and have NO intention of become PC , ever .
.................Some on here are under the mistaken impression that a discussion is supposed too be conducted under the same rules as IF , the participants are sitting , face too face , at a table with the standard social inhibitions being operative and attenuating the comments so as too NOT push any members buttons ! This medium we freely participate in , means all who post in a thread , here , should do so realizing that we don't have too socialize with the posters , after the party is over , and therefore can fully express our opinions , whether others are offended on not . Of course , you're always going too have those sensitive little souls who are continually reporting anyone that they don't agree , with ! They need too grow , UP! , fordy
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Old 03/09/11, 10:02 AM
 
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HT and all it's forums is a microcosm of the big, real world out there. It takes all kinds to make this world, and one has to have a certain amount of discernment to wend their way through it. Everyone comes from a different place, not everyone is PC.

Maybe, actually, this is a safe place to learn tollerance....

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Old 03/09/11, 10:06 AM
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I really hope it wasnt because of this post, Deaconjim was looking for a place to take his family for vacation, you replied "please stay home then", and when I read it I wondered why. I am sorry if my lame joke about a cheesy Stephen King movie was insulting...I was only kidding
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please stay home, then..

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Why?? Because of the Pet Sematary???
(Just kidding...that movie was set in Maine, wasnt it??)
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Old 03/09/11, 10:15 AM
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Even if you never make another post, this forum is still a treasure trove of information. I generally don't post much, but I visit every day (sometimes several times a day...LOL) to see what's going on and if I can learn something new.

What exactly is it that you feel you cannot post? Have you been modded or something? The thing is that "generally" your posts should be specific to the forum/sub forum in which you're posting, you should keep your language and content clean, and flamethrowers should be checked at the door (I think the flamethrower-thing is largely ignored in GC/Politics, though ).
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Old 03/09/11, 10:25 AM
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Old 03/09/11, 10:26 AM
 
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I'm a newbie too, but I'll have to say I haven't seen what you are seeing. I have felt welcomed and haven't really seen any examples of anyone being treated disrespectfully. Respectful dissent maybe but not disrespect. They are two different things.

Maybe you are referring to the GC area? I would love to be on there too but I can also understand why the policy they have here exists. I have been on other forums where that policy is not in place and I can tell you there are many who love to do nothing more than disrupt and cause trouble. Usually it is someone who is "trolling" to push a specific agenda and really has no interest in the site itself and its overall purpose. I am more than happy to "wait my turn" as it were. In the meantime, I have enjoyed reading and learned from the posts there. Besides, my reasons for being here aren't so I can discuss politics, although I certainly enjoy doing that. I am here because I enjoy the fellowship, want to grow in my knowledge of gardening, quilting, and cooking, and to take advantage of the expertise here in setting up our "little piece of heaven on earth" when we get to that point.

Please don't leave. There's a lot to be learned here.
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Old 03/09/11, 10:41 AM
 
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Mmm a couple weeks ago a mod deleted a post from a frequent poster who consequently asked why her post was deleted. . This went on for a few posts. I'm wondering if the OP isn't taking up somene elses cause?

What the OP wants to do is up to the OP. Like others, I'm wondering why it's so verbal. Sure would like the OP to come back & and reply to some of these posts.

Me, I'd just fade into the sunset.....
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Old 03/09/11, 10:45 AM
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I also think that it's important to remember that many of us live out in the middle of nowhere with no neighbors because we have trouble getting along with other people.
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Old 03/09/11, 10:49 AM
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Mmm a couple weeks ago a mod deleted a post from a frequent poster who consequently asked why her post was deleted. . This went on for a few posts. I'm wondering if the OP isn't taking up somene elses cause?

What the OP wants to do is up to the OP. Like others, I'm wondering why it's so verbal. Sure would like the OP to come back & and reply to some of these posts.

Me, I'd just fade into the sunset.....
Since I was one of the two mods in that incident, I don't think it applies here.

Things are fine and have settled down.
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Old 03/09/11, 10:53 AM
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You know this is a fun guessing game, and wonderful outshowing of "please don't leave, or think badly of HT" but, why not wait a bit and let mainegirl show up again and define her problem. Something more stated, and taken up with the correct mod to help her out, rather than this jello statement guessing game of what's bugging her.

Just a thought.
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Old 03/09/11, 11:05 AM
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I guess at the end of the day you have to respect the fact everyone has a mouth and something to say. Some people need drama because they have an emptiness that they can't otherwise fill. I've come to know which folks on here are consistent with rude responses. Don't know if it is just personality or a need to argue. When you express an opinion you are openly inviting others to agree or disagree with you. Gotta wear the right undies to handle both. And.. yes.. there is an ignore feature if you feel it is necessary.
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Old 03/09/11, 11:27 AM
 
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This is going to sound harsh, but I guess I'm just a harsh person, but some people like to pout. Some people like to be begged. I think the OP likes to be begged and "whined and dined" for whatever reason. Reminds me of a small child. Whine away and all the people will come to your aid and make you feel all better.

Told you it would be harsh.
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Old 03/09/11, 11:28 AM
 
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I also think that it's important to remember that many of us live out in the middle of nowhere with no neighbors because we have trouble getting along with other people.
Ya kind of let the "Cat" out of the bag there didnt ya Oggie?
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Old 03/09/11, 11:40 AM
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This is going to sound harsh, but I guess I'm just a harsh person, but some people like to pout. Some people like to be begged. I think the OP likes to be begged and "whined and dined" for whatever reason. Reminds me of a small child. Whine away and all the people will come to your aid and make you feel all better.

Told you it would be harsh.
Happens a lot though. "I'm going to post that I'm leaving and if enough people beg me to stay I'll know they REALLY like me yes they do truly they do!" syndrome. Maybe that's not what's happening here but more often than not it is.
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Old 03/09/11, 11:44 AM
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This is going to sound harsh, but I guess I'm just a harsh person, but some people like to pout. Some people like to be begged. I think the OP likes to be begged and "whined and dined" for whatever reason. Reminds me of a small child. Whine away and all the people will come to your aid and make you feel all better.

Told you it would be harsh.
Agreed, the woe is me ploy
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