
02/28/11, 07:38 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2005
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Originally Posted by Beeman
I've seen footers for posts just dug and then topped with 5gal. buckets with the bottom cut out for forms at the top. You can pour the footers and then concrete screw post anchors to the footers or use those anchors. I'd drop down 1' and can you drop to 7' at the posts to give yourself more pitch? Your house is all steel frame built on a slab with foundation and footers, correct?
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Beeman, this only works in areas without heavy frost. Here in the mountains of eastern PA. we need 48" in the ground and it needs to be smooth sided. We use Sono-tube, since it provides a smooth round surface that discourages "Frost jacking", which is a condition that slowly lifts jagged concrete out of the ground. It can be seasonal, where the frost will lift the concrete an inch or two every winter, then settle down, or it can be continuous, and actually pull a post out. I have seen old wash poles and chain link fence posts that actually frost jacked out of the ground. If a post pulled clear out of the ground, they always have two issues. First, a rough hole with jagged edged concrete, and a taper, where the hole got bigger at the top. It's nothing to see an old post, surrounded by a tapered concrete collar, sticking out of the ground 6-8 inches, in this area. Further north it's now common to wrap the sono-tube in a few layers of poly to give it more slip. If that fails, the cure is to dig down about 6" and bury a 4' square of 1" blueboard around the post. This will keep the post warm enough to not jack.
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