Your Wal-Mart dollars at work?

Look at your computer. Where was it made? How about your router or modem?
Microwave?
Radio?
Telephone?
Close to 90% of that stuff is not made in the good ol USA!
Two Reasons:
1. Our Labor is too high
2. The government pays too many people to sit on their ass!

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Youre right. We need to get wages down to 1 dollar a day,14 hours a day 6.5 days a week.

That'll work.

Or we could quit importing slave labor goods and slap a tariff on em and run our country on those revenues as the Founding Fathers set us up to do.To protect us from slave labor countries taking our jobs.

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Don't be stupid, close to 50% of our citizens are on some sort of government handout. Millions sit, do nothing and draw a check.
Put them to work, subsidize their check and then slap the tariff on the imports.

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I have talked to many people that were on some sort of subside and will not work for any less than $20 per hour. I worked for less than that for most of my life and have done good. When you can get payed near $20 to sit on your butt and not do anything there are not much that will interest you.

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HJ, you'll get no argument from me about greed. Greed is a given among human beings - we all have to fight it. If it were up to me, we'd all be living something like "Victorian Farm" or "Edwardian Farm" but with modern medical care and electricity . We are too divorced from the basics of life and nearly completely invested in delusions. Not all of us, but a majority of us.

As for not needing more human beings, I have come to the conclusion that the facts show we are not overpopulated, so we will have to disagree.

But it's important to think: which one(s) would you "send back" or prevent in the first place and why? Would you go first? And I mean that in a truly serious and friendly way. It's important for the living who have this idea to think about it - you're here. Who decides who will not be here? I submit: that sort of decision making hasn't turned out well at any time in human history. I'm not asking for you to answer that here, but I do think it's worth examining. Next time you are in a larger group of people, look around. Who stays? Who goes? Look especially at the children. Which one would you send back and why? Who decides why and what the criteria are?

Human beings procreate by their very nature. They grow, learn and live in groups. We need each other and we cannot know which "other" will solve what problem. I have heard all of my mid-40's years that we were overpopulated and would all starve to death. In his 1968 book The Population Bomb, Paul Ehrlich claimed that “the battle to feed all humanity is over. In the 1970s the world will undergo famines — hundreds of millions of people are going to starve to death in spite of any…program embarked on now.” We do have poverty and have seen many die - due to greed, as you have said! Not due to overpopulation, due to greed. We can feed each and every soul on the planet, but there are greedy people in the way. Not too many people, but too much greed, too much grasping. On that, we agree.

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The money the Chinese are using for stuff like this is NOT coming from Wal Mart. The amount of money they get from Wal Mart isn't chicken feed, maybe a few billion dollars. The place they get this kind of money from is from the US treasury. That's right, this is YOUR TAX dollars at work. We are talking trillions of dollars, that's right thousands of billions.

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Not just WM, it's Cabela's, Bass Pro Shops, every auto parts store, every tire store, basically every retail and wholesale business.

They have 2 of those trains built recently along with a huge dam project and many other major infrastructure mprovements. We gave our states money to improve with the reinvestment and recovery act and we got a 1" coat of asphalt on the most important rods in the country and money put into food stamps. Go check to see what your state spent it's money on, you'll be so proud.

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Surprising, I wasn't aware that Walmart was the only company, that sold products manufactured in China.

I just purchased a nice compressor pressure switch. On the label it said "designed in Germany, manufactured in China, to German specifications".

Apparently businesses, from other countries are also aware, that they will make more more money if they can save on labor.

On the up side, buying inexpensive items, does increase one's purchasing power. I have a $50 China made air nailer, that is well built and works great, on minor projects. There is little effect on our economy, as there is no way I can afford a $400 American made framing nailer, anyway.

Manufacturing eslewhere is a unfortunate fact of life, for the jobless.

We need to focus instead, on what we can do to create value for our labor, to justify its costs.

And better yet - make them take a pee test! How else should they deserve such freedom? I work like a dog to pay my bills.

AND HOW MANY OF YOU CONTINUE TO BUY CRAP THAT'S CHEAP AND MADE IN CHINA????? When was the last time you walked from store to store looking for a pair of shoes made in America? Or anywhere else BUT China? I do it all the time........ You all need to do the same -

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In exactly what way, will this help the American People? By having us pay more for goods?

Will tarrifs make Companies want to relocate back into the U.S.? Of course not. They will just pass the tarrif costs along to the consumer.

U.S. Companies, now sell their products WORLDWIDE. It's not longer "just about us".

This is not the year 1783 anyway, so what the founding Fathers, looked at in those days is meaningless, in a global economy.

No we have to change the tax structure for that to happen, tariffs is just one small item to start to turn around things. Get rid of corporate taxes so the companies can be competitive on the world market are those that are now thinking of moving out won't and many just might have that incentive as to move back to the States.

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What will keep these companies from just simply becoming a foreign company, and then just import the goods into the U.S., just like every other country?

Happens every day.

The corporate tax thing is just like the earmark thing, makes great sound bytes. Our corporate tax structure isn't the problem, it sounds good though. The tax rate on paper is high but it's not in practice as what you see doesn't show any writeoffs and tax breaks. Put all of that in the equtaion and you have no sound byte or argument. Bottom line capitalism loves exploited labor and environments to sell to the people with money. The US's labor is more expensive so the jobs have left and they ain't coming back. You can remove corporate taxes and they're not coming back.

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If you work like a dog, how do you have so much time to go looking for something that doesn't exist?

For around ten years, I had exactly two pair of shoes at one time... one for work and everyday use, and one for weddings and funerals....

I discovered surplus military boots. I'm wearing a pair right now that costs 3 for $18, little over six bucks a pair, with shipping. They're made of real leather!!! Their Swiss, and they're 40 years old. Loved em so much, I bought 12 pairs so far. It's hard to even buy good shoelaces for that much... You couldn't get an American pair of shoes, of any sort, for 6 bucks.

I'm all for American made goods... however, it's never going to happen... get over it... manufacturing is NEVER coming back here. Short of WWIII, it ain't happening. Along with labor and the costs of regulations/taxes, we have an Administration that is Marxist in nature, and has zero love of productive businesses... they only part of business they enjoy is the ability to tax, to pay off the slaves who are addicted to not working, and vote religiously for their masters.

Let me say it again... Manufacturing IS NOT COMING BACK! Unless we as a people agree that freedom is too much of a burden, and we need 'protection' from the more productive members of the planet, it's a done deal. Start enacting protective tariffs and the unintended consequences rules come into play.

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It will go away when The Fairtax comes about. As when that happens there will be no exemptions, none.

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There is no such thing as a fair tax.

Actually, how do you have 'no exemptions'? Import a tire from China, and pay the Fairtax once.

Import rubber, pay the tax. Melt the rubber down, pay the tax. Mold the rubber into a tire, pay the tax.

The import has 1 tax.

The USA made tire paid 3 taxes.

Fairtax, with no exceptions, drives more business to imports faster yet.

There is no way the USA govt is going to stop the current tax and go to something different - a value-added type of tax.

They will keep what we got, and add the Fairtax on top of it.

Yea, _just_ what we need....

USA laborers have priced themselves out of the labor market. Other people are willing to work for enough less to pay for massive transportation. And so it is, that won't change in a generation or 2.

USA values on eco & social issues is to cost people a lot of money to protect these values. This makes things cost more that are produced in the USA, so again we will always be able to import cheaper, where such values are not employed.

We won't get 'better' taxes, and we won't get manufaturing jobs back.

One thing that would be helping us is the devalued dollar - but we all are howling about that, oh fuel costs too much, oh feed & food costs too much, we need to _do_ something....

Well, if we allow the dollar to be worth less, and willing to pay more for food & fuel, _then_ some of our manufaturing exports and our feed & food exports look much cheaper to the rest of the world, and we'd improve our balance of trade.....

But govt & citizens are working very very hard to get us over that, return the dollar to high values, and put an end to those exports.

--->Paul

Wow. I would think going that fast would make me sick. Man. The train-pass at 2:25 nearly gave me a heart attack.

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Having cheap goods imported only is a race to the bottom.How do you sell your work if nobody else has a job that pays enough to support you,but instead only supports ------ labor.

When the potential customer for YOU cant afford you,YOUR wages drop.Dont support your neighbor,he cant support you,its that simple.

If you think life is about cheap manufactured junk only,kiss yourself goodbye,you are only stabbing YOURSELF in the back.

I can see how tariffs stifle innovation,I will give you that.They do keep prices up,thats the point.But protection from slave labor in exchange,I will take it.I know for a fact Im not looking forward to living at their poverty level without a middle class,just lords and slaves,that stinks! See the 3rd world to grasp it.

The Founders gave us Freedom and Protection from Lords... and Tariffs was part of how they did it.They ran a Country without onerous taxes using only Tariff funding and at the same time protected our standard of living.

There is I doubt one of us anywhere near the Intelligence of the Founders,these were men of great knowledge,courage and intelligence. Currently we are fat ,lazy and morally bankrupt,now soon to be enslaved in lack of liberty and poverty.

So be sure to think of that when 'my buying power is expanded by cheap slave labor' It is,only until the shift is so complete that labor ceases to be profitable here.Then you too are a ------,and whats really amzing is we are headed there at warp speed,the deficit alone should make you grasp it,but you dont.

Woe to the future,they are in deep trouble.

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My kids,30's,will escape much of the pain to the bottom,I HOPE,the grands.....will be Lords or Beggars built on the Alter of 'Global Trade' which is in fact 'Global Poverty'

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Productive my hind foot!

These productive people are living in company barracks equivalent to Auschwitz,making pennies an hour,working 14 hour days,6.5 days a week,6 on Sunday.

Their countries are stinking cesspools of pollution.

If you call exploitation of people and the Planet productivity for the benefit of a 2 class system.....thats a pretty sorry World.

Now tell me WE HAVE TO SUPPORT these Robber Barons???? We have no other choice?????? At the expense of all else and wrap it up as productivity,thats pretty sad.

As for shoes,if you make 50G,yes a good pair of shoes SHOULD cost 150 bucks,thats inflation at its finest.

But the rest of you,buy dollar fifty shoes for 30 bucks and slap yourself on the back, because SOON that will be your lot,making them for pennies an hour,without any personal Freedom,Like the China and its goods you worship.

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