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01/18/11, 12:55 AM
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Whether you decide on a cow or a goat, taste the milk from whatever one you are buying. Some goats and some cows give "strong" tasting milk. I am sure there are a lot of reasons for this feed, health, pasture or genetics. I brought some nice cold fresh goats milk to an elderly friend of mine who had asked to taste some goats milk. The funny thing was the way she approached the milk, kind of like she was taking poison! She finally brought the milk to her lips and took a small sip. Her face lit up and she said' It tastes like milk!!!" That is the way it is supposed to taste. The canned and bottled stuff at the store is nasty.
Also with goats you either love them or really hate them. I love them. My experience with cows was total of milking two of them. The first one laid in poop all the time and I could not get her cleaned enough to make the milk drinkable. The second one was mean as a snake and kicked me all the time.
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01/18/11, 12:59 AM
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The flavor problem I noticed reminded me of the stink the bucks have. I figure it's some kind of hormonal thing related to goat. Which reminds me, that is another thing you're supposed to do is never have a buck near a doe when she's milking, or his stink will cause bad flavor.
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Also false. My bucks are near the does all the time & the milk is fine.
By the way, I vote goat also. The milk from ours is wonderful!
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01/18/11, 08:22 AM
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Some goats are bred for strong flavored milk to make a certain variety of cheese. Sounds like you got one of those.
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01/18/11, 08:54 AM
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Some goats are bred for strong flavored milk to make a certain variety of cheese. Sounds like you got one of those.
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You know, I never knew that. But I first milked goats, years ago, I hated the milk but liked the cheese. So I switched to a Jersey cow, I loved the milk but my children, who had been raised on goats milk hated it. After a while, they came around to my way of thinking since I was doing the milking
I just couldn't stand the taste of the milk. I used the same practice for milking the goats that I did the cow, but the cows milk tasted better to me.
I also have a problem with lamb. I can't stand the smell of it while it's cooking and the taste grosses me out. It tastes like the smell of lanolin. I have smelled the meat we raise before I cook it and it smells fine to me. As soon as it heats up, my stomach heaves. Yet everyone else around here loves it while I can't even be in the same room with it without feeling nauseous. Go figure
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01/18/11, 08:59 AM
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I vote goats milk also! Ours has a wonderful flavor. When someone wants to taste milk at our house, we do a test on them first. We put out two cups with goat milk in each one. Then , they taste and we have actually had people to say,"Oh, both of those are cow's milk." Then when we tell them that both we actually goats milk, they can hardly believe it!
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01/18/11, 10:36 AM
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Wags; that is very interesting about the Nigerian goats. We have never had any but that would be a plus being able to make butter easily. Also the staggered breeding would be good. Anyone know where Nigerian goats are sold in Canada? We love our Nubian/ Alpine/Lamacha crosses and their milk is sweet and good but a little Nigerian doe would be an interesting addition.
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I breed Nigerian Dwarfs, but I'm in Ontario. Here's one breeder in Nova Scotia - http://http://www.clrc.ca/cgi-bin/me...95&_id=5346822
Nobody in New Brunswick.
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01/18/11, 11:06 AM
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[QUOTE=Kshobbit;4870790] She finally brought the milk to her lips and took a small sip. Her face lit up and she said' It tastes like milk!!!" QUOTE]
I get that alot too.. I live with two of the pickiest people alive (DH and DS). They were absolutely horrified when I said that I wanted a goat for milk. I convinced them by buying fresh goat milk and putting it in a milk carton from the store. They never know the difference until I told them. I am pretty sure that they would have never even tried it otherwise.. But I have also heard that there can be a difference with breeds and even herds so definately try it before you buy it!
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01/18/11, 11:10 AM
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I also have a problem with lamb. I can't stand the smell of it while it's cooking and the taste grosses me out. It tastes like the smell of lanolin. I have smelled the meat we raise before I cook it and it smells fine to me. As soon as it heats up, my stomach heaves. Yet everyone else around here loves it while I can't even be in the same room with it without feeling nauseous. Go figure
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Try a hair-sheep; one that sheds it's wool. They don't have much lanolin in them, they taste rather like deer.
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01/18/11, 11:34 AM
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Wags; that is very interesting about the Nigerian goats. We have never had any but that would be a plus being able to make butter easily. Also the staggered breeding would be good. Anyone know where Nigerian goats are sold in Canada? We love our Nubian/ Alpine/Lamacha crosses and their milk is sweet and good but a little Nigerian doe would be an interesting addition.
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Sent you a pm with a couple of breeders in Nova Scotia - there are probably more than that and that should give you a starting point.
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01/18/11, 05:10 PM
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Can't raise a steer from a goat either, ha ha.
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No, you can't, but capretto is fine flavored, gourmet stuff.
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01/19/11, 10:12 AM
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Try a hair-sheep; one that sheds it's wool. They don't have much lanolin in them, they taste rather like deer.
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We have St. Croix, no thanks. I wish I could, it's good meat, it's just my taste buds
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01/19/11, 11:02 AM
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We have St. Croix, no thanks. I wish I could, it's good meat, it's just my taste buds
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Well, you know, it took me awhile to get used to it. Have you tried marinating it in the fridge for several hours before cooking, in a light solution of olive oil, garlic powder, salt, pepper, and ground coriander?
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01/19/11, 01:50 PM
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No buck, My does go to his house. I can't stand lamb either. I crotch the does biweekly, Wash udders and disinfect then use a little pump milker. I shear the kids at about 9 mos for butcher, wait several days and wash them, bed well and the dirty deed 2 days after that. The meat is very good. Goats milk has more flavor and odor but tastes sweeter and richer than cows milk, a lot like jersey cows milk with heavy cream....James
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01/19/11, 08:26 PM
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Sent you a pm with a couple of breeders in Nova Scotia - there are probably more than that and that should give you a starting point.
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Wags thanks for the information. I will check it out. We don't have Craigs list here but have something similar called Kijiji. I haven't found any posted there yet.Thanks again.
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01/19/11, 10:28 PM
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I prefer cows. The only down fall with a cow is should a person somehow get their own foot under the cows foot one says a lot of bad things with the cow looking at you wondering what in the world you are blowing up about.
Goat steps on your foot and you just push the goat off or lift up their hoof. No hobbling around for days.
Though I do prefer cows, at this stage of life a goat is what I must have.
Do miss my beloved cow, do however get to milk her when her new owner needs to be gone for a day.
Why in the world does a milk goat cost so much right now????? Milk goat $200 versus a milk cow $700.
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01/19/11, 11:13 PM
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I vote goat  I love cows milk, could drink a gallon a day if it weren't so expensive. My husband said I could get a couple of goats, or a milk cow....there are several pros & cons to each...but overall the goats won.
I have had some foul goats milk before..... I've had some awful cows milk before..... both of which were the exception, not the norm. Best bet there is to try fresh milk from the farm you intend to purchase stock from if at all possible...Milk quality & taste can vary from breed to breed, and even individuals of the same breed may produce stronger tasting milk than others...
I have small children and the goats are easier for them to handle than a cow. Not to mention those clever lil goats play games with the kids and they really enjoy them.
Goats were way more affordable than the cow I wanted.
Goats are better suited to my small acreage.
I can handle deworming & vaccinating a goat by myself....which is handy because my husband usually works out of town for weeks at a time.
If I gotta clean up poop, I prefer multiple, small,neat goat berries to big, slimy cow patties.
Not saying one is better than the other, just that for me, goats fit my life a lil' better than a cow. In the future I would love to have a mini jersey, but unless my acreage grows and my bank account magically expands I don't see that happening anytime soon
I recomend trying fresh, raw milk from a few places, of both cow & goat to see what suits your taste.
Best of luck!
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01/19/11, 11:18 PM
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I prefer cow's milk, but we have goats for all of the reasons others have mentioned. I find that the milk does taste "goaty" after a day or so, but I process it into cheese a lot of the time so that is not a big deal.
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01/20/11, 07:03 AM
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I love our goat milk, but have only ever really drunk store bought cow milk so really don't have anything comparable to compare our real goat milk to. I can do anything with the milk that I would do with cow milk, even get butter. However, I don't get as much butter as I would from a jersey. I have noticed that our cheese is stronger than cow milk cheese and seems to age quicker in flavor. I know we get a strong cheddar in just a couple months of aging when most recipes recommend about 6 months. However, our taste buds are still adapting to the change so that might have something to do with it. I definitely vote goats, but they fit our little farm better than a cow would. And goat meat is delicious, but it does require some finesse in cooking (low and slow) or tends to be rather chewy. Blessings, Kat
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01/20/11, 10:33 AM
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well seems to me goat milk "flavor" is feed cows eat 'prime forage and goats munch weeds twigs tin cans shoes cardboard lol
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01/21/11, 11:35 AM
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well seems to me goat milk "flavor" is feed cows eat 'prime forage and goats munch weeds twigs tin cans shoes cardboard lol
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Ahem.
Goats do NOT eat tin cans, shoes, or cardboard. That is an old husbands' tale.
They DO eat healthy browse, grain, hay, and marshmallows.
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