All-Crop Harvester Rebuild

Don't get me wrong I think rebuildign All-crops serves that kinda cult market for that sort of machine, and 14k is a steal for amounts to a good as new machine. I would go pull type simply because I don't want to service another engine and could swap to a different tractor as needed. Persoanlly I'd look at a newer IH machine.... they made pull type versions up into the 90's. They take quite a bit more hp but parts are a snap as they share with the self propelled types. MF Deere and Lilliston all made pull type feild combines. Of all the pull types I do agree the All-crop probably has the best market for rebuilt machines. I just wouldn't want an Allis Chalmers when there were better newer machines.

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Yeah those later pull-types where monsters werent they!

Hey Tom, all the best on your venture! Those of us who grew up around, and used the All-crops, have a "special" love for those machines. The AC All-crops are the best of American ingenuity!

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The only thing I see, and I support what your doing, is that, the people with little fields, ect, are also, people with little pocketbooks. Ive seen old JD SP Cs that sold for $500. Nothing wrong with them other than that they were old. SPs deminish in value faster that PTs. A small farmer could get one of these, and if it ran 5 years before the engine went out, hes made money. Maybe he has the smarts to put a auto engine back on it and go another 5 yrs. Dad bought a JD that way. Think he paid 2G for it back in the 70s. The engine went out after 3 yrs. My brother was too young to think about putting a auto engine on it, and so dad junked it out and got another. Later my brother went to work for IHC and saw that people did trade out JD engines for auto engines. If one could find an old car that had a bad trans but a good engine, and get it for a song, and have the people and help to get it put on a combine, Hed have some power

Does the All-Crop have a moveable tongue that swings for road transport, or am I thinking of a baler???

geo

Only the model 90 had a swingable tongue.

I was just saying I did it. I cut 40-60 acres. The A was a lot more user friendly even in a5 acre field. Even had a cab and air. What is better about an allcrop than an A? I am just saying, I saw no rreason to continue with the allcrop. I could farm in the morning, combine in the heat of the day and plow that evening without hitching and unhitching....James

"What is better about an allcrop than an A"

Its not a matter of whats "better". Its a matter of what is the best choice for a small farmer. Everyones situation is different. I am simply offering another choice.

I have already listed some reasons why a rebuilt All-Crop may have some advantages over an old SP, as have other posters. I am not going to repeat them. If those reasons are not good enough for you, well thats fine by me. Its a free country. Do whats best for you. Unlike some sales people, I would never recommend a fellow get one of these if in my mind it didnt make any sense. And I can visualize plenty of scenarios where it wouldnt.

BTW The Model A never had a cab yet alone air conditioning.

The AII had a cab, not sure about air conditioning

I was just asking questions. I have followed you on the AC forum. I applaud what you do to keep these old harvestors going. Everyone saved is an oppertunity for use. Even your rebuild, I think is great. I used and appreciated the allcrop. Especially the 72 and 90. Then moved on to an A. No it didn't come factory with a cab, but it was a factory cab added later. Some of it is how you get defensive, I know this is your project, you put your heart and soul into it. I understand that. This almost comes across as a sales ad. But all is good. It is how you come across, like when you said "old worn out machine", well....your old allcrop is worn out. My A was not, old yes but newer than your allcrop. Is the A better than the allcrop, in ways yes, more modern. You don't have to run over standing crop to open a field. But this is not to say the allcrop doesn't have a place, it most definatly does. Still a very viable choice to small operators, just like you said. I am not against an all crop at all, I loved the machine. I love to see one in operation. I would love to see your rebuilt one when it is done, shake your hand, tell you job well done and wish you well. I know you will do the best you can, I hope all goes well with it....James

Oh by the way, I payed $250.00 for the A, ran it 6 years, 2 new belts and a used set of rub bars, fuel, oil, filter and antifreeze change. I sold it for $1600.00 when I bought a new 6600 JD. I still missed the A.

>> This almost comes across as a sales ad.

Well I would be lying if I wasnt interested in "getting the word out"...

>> It is how you come across, like when you said "old worn out machine",

Most older SP machines do have a lot of hours.

>>your old allcrop is worn out.

A rebuilt AC will hardly be worn out, more like "like new". Stay tuned for more
pics...cant wait to get the threshing chamber all done.

>>Still a very viable choice to small operators, just like you said. I am not against an all crop at all, I loved the machine.

You came across to me as someone who didnt see the big picture when you stated words to the effect "why would anyone what an AC when you can get an Gleaner A" so I was gonna make my case. Glad you do agree that in some cases this might be a good choice.

>>I love to see one in operation. I would love to see your rebuilt one when it is done, shake your hand, tell you job well done and wish you well. I know you will do the best you can, I hope all goes well with it....James

Thanks James..No hard feelings.

>>Oh by the way, I payed $250.00 for the A, ran it 6 years, 2 new belts and a used set of rub bars, fuel, oil, filter and antifreeze change. I sold it for $1600.00 when I bought a new 6600 JD. I still missed the A.[/QUOTE]

Wow you did yourself good! If I knew thats how it would work out for me, I'd get one too! But with my luck...

Well Tom, I'm glad you're making the attempt. I can;t swing a rebuilt AC, but there are a couple (okay, about a dozen) field queens I'm looking to get for my oats, speltz, maybe field peas, clover, etc. A pull type fits my operation better than SP.