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Old 12/16/10, 08:34 PM
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And I have a 1999 Mazda Protege w/ 195k miles that I bought used for $1300. Haven't done much to it yet. Might have to change the fuel strainer, but you have to drop th etank.

Buying used is by far the best war to get a car.
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Old 12/16/10, 08:55 PM
 
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Don't hold your breath. A couple of years ago there was a similiar thread. I volunteered to never go into a walmart again and asked who would join me.
Still waiting for anyone to step up. Had a lot of people who made excuses but no one who would join me.
Well I have joined you. I haven't set foot in the place since April and that was to buy my fishing license and only because no one else was open at 4am. Before that it was last december.

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Old 12/16/10, 10:22 PM
 
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China is not an enemy foreign power power. Since they have a commanding role in the economic power they will not start a war. Who would start a war over most anything with their best customers. You may not like the way they do business but the money they get from us counts a lot.
Wait until the dollar completely collapses (likely) or instead of monetizing we refuse to pay our debts (less likely) and they are left holding the bag with trillions of worthless T-Bills (either scenerio). I wonder how they will like their best customers then. I do hope both scenerios are wrong (not counting on it) and we signifcantly reduce spending.
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Old 12/17/10, 06:37 AM
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Always makes me laugh when people complain up and down about gas costing $2.79 per gallon but will turn around and buy a half-gallon of Fiji water for $3+ bucks! Think of how much gas you could put in your car if you'd just fill a reusable water bottle at home for PENNIES!
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Old 12/17/10, 08:37 AM
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Always makes me laugh when people complain up and down about gas costing $2.79 per gallon but will turn around and buy a half-gallon of Fiji water for $3+ bucks! Think of how much gas you could put in your car if you'd just fill a reusable water bottle at home for PENNIES!
I find regularly buying bottle water odd,I will only buy water if I don't have any with me,which is rare as I refill water bottles at home.
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Old 12/17/10, 11:31 AM
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As long as I have running water at home I won't be buying any in the store.
If something happens where I have no water at home I still won't buy water in a store.
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Old 12/18/10, 05:09 AM
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When I buy drinks in the store I usually force myself to buy something OTHER than water. Even though water is healthier for me, I just can't justify spending that much money for something that is FREE at my house! So I'll spend the 2 bucks on a chocolate milk or juice instead. Once in a great, great blue moon do I buy water. It just seems so... wrong!
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Old 12/18/10, 10:35 AM
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Does someone grow tea in the US?

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You could! And then hire illegal Mexicans to pick it for you!
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Old 12/18/10, 12:14 PM
 
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Seems to me if we could export labor unions, environmental standards, corporate tax rates, OSHA regulations, matching FICA payments, required insurance rates, and a whole host of bureaucratic red tape to businesses in China, (India, etc.) to have to contend with we could level the playing field just a little. Not that some of these are bad, but they add to the cost of goods and when your competitor doesn't have the costs associated....
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Old 12/18/10, 01:15 PM
 
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Seems to me if we could export labor unions, environmental standards, corporate tax rates, OSHA regulations, matching FICA payments, required insurance rates, and a whole host of bureaucratic red tape to businesses in China, (India, etc.) to have to contend with we could level the playing field just a little. Not that some of these are bad, but they add to the cost of goods and when your competitor doesn't have the costs associated....
Better yet let's reinstate slavery and we're there.
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Old 12/18/10, 01:22 PM
 
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Yesterday on the way to town, stopped and bought a pint bottle of tea, $1.89. Later bought a nice looing pair of work boots all leather, lug sole 19.87. So the barter equivalent 1 1/2 gallon of tea (made in US) for a pair of boots(made in China). I and most bemoan the loss of jobs and manufacturing in this country, but if we had to pay for goods made here we may well have sticker shock. PS another sticker shock Bobcat quoted me 18 hours to replace 4 axle seals on Skid steer@$100/hr. $1800for labor I figure even if it took me a month pretty good wage.
In reality, that bottle of tea, may cost only 22 cents to produce. The rest is profit markup. The company might make a decent profit, it it was sold for 90 cents. The rest would be gravy.

Also in reality, Bobcat could probably make a profit charging less, but they charge $100/hr, because they can. If you can find an independant mechanic, they would likely charge less.

Items made in China, make a small profit on very large volume of items made.
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Old 12/18/10, 01:47 PM
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Don't hold your breath. A couple of years ago there was a similiar thread. I volunteered to never go into a walmart again and asked who would join me.
Still waiting for anyone to step up. Had a lot of people who made excuses but no one who would join me.
I was in one once two years ago for something specific that none of the local stores had that day. I had to go into another one this summer to pick up pictures that DW had had printed there. So while I don't have an ironclad rule against going there, I'm close enough for my purposes.

Txrider- You're right. Dividends don't simply reward having money, they reward you for deciding to park your money in a company that pays dividends. It's a fine distinction but I should have been clearer on that point. My main point was that I think it's more important to buy American in a way that funnels money to American paychecks than to dividend checks mailed from headquarters in the U.S. to wherever the shareholders happen to live.
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Old 12/19/10, 02:26 AM
 
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I always drink bottled water, it's the cheapest medicene I can buy -
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Old 12/19/10, 09:34 AM
 
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Maybe we should be drinking bottled water from China. Then we can enjoy not only the cheap labor but the results of their disregard for the environment. After all we deserve it.
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Personally, I would prefer better tap water -
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Old 12/19/10, 11:30 AM
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Personally, I would prefer better tap water -
Wonder how much of the bottled water sold in stores are tap water?
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Old 12/19/10, 11:56 AM
 
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Personally, I would prefer better tap water -
That would require stricter regulations and higher taxes, can't have that and a good economy can we?



Where would anyone think bottled water came from other then a tap? It's water and since we've basically tainted all of it one way or another it has to be filtered and or treated in some way or at the least pumped,piped and it comes out of a tap.
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Old 12/19/10, 07:27 PM
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Just for a good laugh (not), I googled the answer to "What percentage of bottled water is tap water?"

The surprising answer: about 25-40% (estimated, of course). Aquafina and Dasani are regular tap water, taken from public reservoirs, for example. The bottled water industry makes around $100 billion per year! Here are some fun pages to read about bottled/tap:

Natural Resources Defense Council

Reader's Digest

Web MD

E (Environmental) Magazine

Mother Nature Network
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Old 12/20/10, 02:17 AM
 
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Why all the hostility?

There must be tons of articles denouncing bottled water - a healthy thing - why?

When the 'media' puts so much effort out there to push people in a certain direction, it makes me wonder why.

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Old 12/20/10, 03:11 AM
 
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I am afraid I must disagree. First various countries have sold us cheap manufactured goods in the last 50 years or so starting with Japan. I don't remember any of them trying to take us over. Second how exactly did China "lure" us into borrowing money from them? Simple fact is America over spends and we borrow from everybody!
how about world war 2 when japan had its troops on the aluetian islands ,dutch harbor,alaska...american troops were killed defending american soil.....
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