Need a source for organic meat NOT grass fed

Any wild fish is good to go, organic chicken breast, raw vegy's, Raw fresh goats milk. If you truley are allergic to grasses you need to be in a clean room. No fan forced heat, radient or oil filled. Use a good air filter with NO fan. No molds. Grass pollens and starches are in all processed food. You need raw foods, washed good with water, then cooked. Drink filtered water, water, water. No soy or high carbo foods. No breads, rice, white potatoes or beans. You will never cut it all out, cut out all you can. Your body is being overcome by so many bad things. Make a big swing at the poisons and then fine tune....James

http://www.eves-best.com/airwise-air-purifiers.htm

A lot of information here....James

http://www.food-allergy.org/cooking2.html

why does fish have to be organic? Salmon and halibut caught in the north should be clean enough. Does all natural peanut butter have sugar in it? Rice..tofu? Sorry to hear you have this problem, honestly I cannot even imagine what you are going through. My only other advice is to raise your own meat/fish if you can or hire a local to keep some specialty animals for you. Good luck!

Arabian Knight- You might stop and think about what your doing. I have never raised a cow but are you really that detached that you can overlook the sadness in a animal being raised in a barn. I feel sorry for those cows you say your landlord raises because benfiting from another living animal doesn't mean you should be robbing it of theirs. You obviously are the type of person who does not believe people are animals too. Your probably gonna say I never farmed so I don't know what I am saying but anyone can raise a cow. Those who do should do it PROPER.

there is no sadness in a cow raised in a barn.

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You don't want farm raised fish, bad stuff. Carbs are converted to sugars in your body....James

She didn't say farm raised. She was referring to wild caught fish. Technically wild caught is not organic.

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Yes sorry, I had said "any wild fish is good to go" in an earlier post, Farm raised can be fed lots of "stuff"....James

And animals aren't people, either. They forget that all the time.

But I once saw a mourning dove.

was it in a barn?

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Was it eating a praying mantis?

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I went to whole foods today and they had wild cod, bass, mahli something and catfish (from a lake). they also had farm raised salmon but they said it is fed grass or alfalfa pellets.

the info the allergist gave me is that if you eat a food with mercury then your body grows the candida as a defense mechanism so for that reason I'm going to avoid it right now.

the lady with the fungal infection, is she also allergic to fungus? that really is what is making my body go haywire apparently. I'm allergic to something that is living in my body.

whole foods also have a chicken and turkey which they say is raised on a vegetarian diet and the butcher said it is in an enclosed barn and not fed alfalfa. he said a lot of their customers are on very strict diets like mine, they see it all the time.

they also had a great selection of organic vegs and fruits of all kind. I also got organic beans even though they are starchy just as a back up protein source.

the worst time for my asthma was the first year. I guess they didn't recommend breast feeding in the 60s as being healthy for the infant so instead fed formula I think similar to today, mostly soy based. they tried every formula and nothing worked.

I've never had the type of asthma where they carry an inhalor and oxygen everywhere but I am really starting to sympathise with someone in that situaton. my cousins son was that bad and he committed suicide at 21. he just couldn't live like that anymore. for the first time I'm at least seeing a little of what he must have felt. he must have had such a poor quality of life.

there is an organic dairy here that also sells a few fruits and vegs as well as dairy products and meat. I'm going to talk to them about do they have the facilities to raise what I need and prices.

according to the dr, once the fungal growth is at a normal level then these severe reactions will go away but I should stick to an anti fungal diet (just not as severe as now. its basically an atkins diet).

I'm feeling much more optimistic today and really appreciate all your good thoughts. I have a niece with spina bifida and severe health issues and as selfish as it is she's a constant reminder of what a serious health problem really is. and she is such a great kid and always so cheerful despite being confined to a wheelchair and in and out of the hospital. her old aunt can definitely learn from here.

thank you again for all the good info and even for the arguments. it still gives me info which is what I need right now. off to read the vegetarian thread since I may have to resort to that.

I would certainly get a second opinion from another allergist --maybe one that teaches at a med school or finished his residency in the last few years.

As has been pointed out before--alfalfa is not a grass, it's a legume. I would think you could find plenty of farmers that don't feed grass hay and only raise alfalfa.

I would also like to point out that vegetarian poultry is not going to be easy to find--any bug or fly in the chicken house is going to be eaten. They are also feed grains, or if they free range they will eat grasses.

I would take anything in this thread with a grain of salt--there is so much misinformation.

Yes get the wild fish, not farm raised. I was raised on goats milk, allergic to cows milk, Mom had no breast milk. I was always sickly, I stayed away from hay on the farm, I was allergic to it, broke out, also had alleries bad. Got along fairly well until my first polio relapse and all went downhill fast. Went as natural as possible, whole foods and after getting some strength back started adding. I do best with the raw, whole food and goats milk so I am staying with it. At first it was overwhelming but after settlling in, not so bad. I sprout, don't use flour, use fresh meat, fish, chicken, turkey, elk, venison, and good beef. Low on the carbs. I have fresh goat cheese, butter, cottage cheese, yogurt and also fresh eggs. No animals in the house. Make sure there are no molds and you have a clean room to get away to when everything acts up. Good inside air quality is essential. Alfalfa has a lot of molds and allergins....James

Mel-

I've done a lot of research on diets because our 5yo DS is on the autism spectrum. I've discovered that making changes in his diet has helped decrease his autistic tendencies.

Through my research, I've come across some books that might be useful to you as well. We are currently using the first for DS's autism and I have a friend that has used the latter to cure chronic sinus issues and digestive problems.

Gut and Psychology Syndrome by Dr. Natasha Campbell-McBride
http://www.gutandpsychologysyndrome.com/

The Body Ecology Diet by Donna Gates
http://www.bodyecology.com/

Both of these books use diet to improve a wide range of ailments including autism, yeast, digestive disorders, allergies, depression, etc.

If you're interested in more information about Dr. McBride's book, please feel free to pm me and I can give you a whole bunch of links for blogs with more information and recipes. I realize you'd still have to make some changes in the program because of your very restricted diet, but I thought that maybe one of these books might be helpful.

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We have asthma here--have you had your ducts cleaned in your house? AC/Heating ducts, I mean? Vent fans for stoves and bathrooms, checked the crawl spaces and maybe interiors of walls? We've found that mold likes to lurk there, and under blinds where humidity accumulates at night this time of year as well, and that'll set off asthma attacks faster than anything else.
You've probably done all those things, but if you haven't, maybe you can reduce the total strain on your body a bit that way. Or rather, have someone else do it. (Heck, we moved apartments once because of mold in the heating ducts when the landlord wouldn't/couldn't do anything about it.)

Yes of course you can feed that to horses but if you fed a horse ONLY that it would be a dead horse. Laminitis would probably get it first though just before the lack of fiber.

Do you think I am that deft????????
Geesh Not even going to make a comment on such a post as that....
Goodnight.

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Many times people develop allergies to things they've never had a problem with. I hope you list that med as an allergy. I don't see any relationship between that allergy and shrimp.

Still, this thread makes no sense. A grass allergy isn't going to cause a problem with grass fed meats.

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