HSUS Banner Ad.....Really?????

I would suggest taking up some reading on World History.

Somehow I get the feeling you and I would disagree on what makes up "ethical animal treatment". It doesn't bother you that PETA and the like are against even pet ownership, has even come out against seeing eye dogs? They are horrified by a working farm dog but have they ever seen what happens to dogs that AREN'T allowed to work???? PETA and HSUS disguises itself as a friend to animals but they are ANYTHING but that.

We haven't even touched on any points about keeping livestock for food, I'm sure they would love to sue those of us who keep meat and milk animals, even though they are all very well cared for and loved. Our 4H (years ago now) was picketed by an "animal rights group", they threatened to come in and set all of the kids animals "free" (free to where??? by the way we had another "animal rights activist" "set free" some horses recently, one was seriously injured and one was killed, really nice for the animals). It doesn't bother you even one iota that they would love to take away my rights to feed my family???

I just can't believe that members of these boards are actually PETA and HSUS friendly??? They (those groups) are against EVERYTHING that most "homesteaders/farmers" are doing and literally do zero to "help" animals or "rescue" animals on any practical level. Ok, stepping off soapbox.

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I am sorry. You can't dial a phone? We have to do it for you?

I don't know why I even responded to this thread, if there was ever a thread to lead nowhere this is it BUT are you seriously suggesting that those of us against groups like PETA and HSUS are uneducated???? Wow.

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My thoughts exactly.
Wait... I can think of one reason they might be here...

I was responding to a post that was directed at a comment on World civilizations. If you want to distort that remark for your own personal gain, then that is your issue.

I am sure that the supporters of ALF , HSUS and PETA that are on this forum and many others also donate to and support the work of the ELF ( Earth Liberation Front ).
Some of the things that Deeds that they brag about On There OWN web Sites ( so no one can say I am quoting an extremist watch group . ( They do Work Together )
http://www.earthliberationfront.org/
A little more info on the Animal Rights Wacko's
Peta
They ran adds urging college kids to drink beer instead of milk.
Alex Pacheco the former director of Peta said " We feel that animals have the same rights as retarded children "
How about the former vice president of HSUS , Humane Society of the United States
Michael W Fox who stated that " The life of an ant and that of My child should be granted equal Consideration "

Let Us not Not forget that both the ALF & ELF Publicly took credit for the burning of a McDonalds in Tucson Az. in 2001 , but it didn't receive all the attention and publicity they were looking for on Sept. 11 , 2001
http://www.kingsnake.com/wths/clergyman.htm

Huh ?
Who would I call ?
And for what ?

It makes about as much sense as the rest of Her Post in this topic .

To cause trouble.

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I'm an environmentalist, left wing, Ron Paul loving Prius driver with a farm. If you have a problem with that, kindly go take a leap.

Looks like this thread has ran out of its usefulness for anyone.

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