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12/06/10, 02:42 PM
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Weird how an organization that is against pet ownership adopts out pets.
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Jan, your thinking of the Humane Society, HSUS is a radical animal rights group that preys on that kind of confusion.
So the question is...why you been hitting the HSUS site Lazy J? HAHAHAHAHAHA Just funnin ya!
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12/06/10, 03:24 PM
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I don't know about it relying on tracking cookies..
If it did I would see lots of yarn ads 
But I get singles, Saab (yeah right) and home refinance (we are very happy with our current mortgage rate).
I don't think I have ever seen an ad that applies to any of my life interests or the sites I visist.
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Same here. I just thought they were random and everyone saw the same ads. The only ad I found helpful was KIVA.com, and I have enjoyed my association with them. All the others have nothing to do with my interests nor are similar to sites I visit.
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12/06/10, 03:31 PM
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yeah I see the KIVA ads too, and lots of others for helping out ngos in third world countries. Ha, that would be funny to track what we're all getting for ads. I've never seen a HSUS ad.
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12/06/10, 03:51 PM
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Out of curiosity, I visited the HSUS site, and saw nothing objectionable. Here's the "about us" section:
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About Us: Overview
The Humane Society of the United States is the nation's largest and most effective animal protection organization—backed by 11 million Americans, or one in every 28. Established in 1954, The HSUS seeks a humane and sustainable world for all animals—a world that will also benefit people. We are America's mainstream force against cruelty, exploitation and neglect, as well as the most trusted voice extolling the human-animal bond.
Our mission statement: Celebrating Animals, Confronting Cruelty.
We work to reduce suffering and to create meaningful social change for animals by advocating for sensible public policies, investigating cruelty and working to enforce existing laws, educating the public about animal issues, joining with corporations on behalf of animal-friendly policies, and conducting hands-on programs that make ours a more humane world. We are the lead disaster relief agency for animals, and we provide direct care for thousands of animals at our sanctuaries and rescue facilities, wildlife rehabilitation centers, and mobile veterinary clinics.
We celebrate pets, as well as wildlife and habitat protection. We are the nation's most important advocate for local humane societies, providing shelter standards and evaluations, training programs, a national advertising campaign to promote pet adoption, direct support, and national conferences. We operate a Humane Wildlife Services program in the D.C. metro area to provide homeowners and businesses with humane and effective solutions to conflicts with our wild neighbors. The HSUS publishes All Animals, a membership magazine, and Animal Sheltering, a bi-monthly magazine for animal sheltering professionals.
We confront national and global cruelties through major campaigns targeting the barbaric practices of dogfighting and cockfighting; abusive puppy mills where dogs are treated not like family but like production machines; the worst cruelties of factory farming in modern agribusiness such as confinement of animals in crates and cages; inhumane and unsporting hunting practices such as "canned hunts" of captive exotic animals; the slaughter of American horses for export to foreign countries where horsemeat is considered a delicacy; and the clubbing of baby seals and other animals for the commercial fur trade. Our track record of effectiveness has led to meaningful victories for animals in Congress, state legislatures, courtrooms and corporate boardrooms.
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What am I missing? (hope my quoting the above doesn't violate any forum rules -- if so, please delete)
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12/06/10, 03:57 PM
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Because they are nothing but a PETA extreme group. Period. End of story.
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12/06/10, 04:24 PM
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I see World of Warcraft and Backwoods home advertised.....
wonder what that says about me?
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12/06/10, 05:22 PM
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Out of curiosity, I visited the HSUS site, and saw nothing objectionable. Here's the "about us" section:
What am I missing? (hope my quoting the above doesn't violate any forum rules -- if so, please delete)
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That is their version of what they want you to think they are. Everything in that statement is true, but it is what they don't say is what you need to know. They are radical animal rights activists. They are against all animal agriculture, hunting, pet ownership, etc. They get soft headed idiots to give them money by making them believe that they rescue animals (they do not), and that they are fighting "cruelty" the trouble is that their definition of animal cruelty includes any human activity involving animals. No chickens for eggs, no horses to ride, no dogs to sit at your feet, no cat to sit in your lap, nothing.
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12/06/10, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Belfrybat
Out of curiosity, I visited the HSUS site, and saw nothing objectionable. Here's the "about us" section:
What am I missing? (hope my quoting the above doesn't violate any forum rules -- if so, please delete)
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You are reading their description of therselves for public consumption. Do some more research and get more opinions of HSUS and how they ride on the mistaken impression they are your local organization. Not so.
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12/06/10, 05:42 PM
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They get soft headed idiots to give them money
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LMBO!! no truer statement than this one..
reminds me of PAPPY MCDANIEL the gov. of Mississippi in the movie. O BROTHER WHERE ART THOU.
his line was....you soft headed sumb-tch!!
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12/06/10, 05:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Belfrybat
Out of curiosity, I visited the HSUS site, and saw nothing objectionable. Here's the "about us" section:
What am I missing? (hope my quoting the above doesn't violate any forum rules -- if so, please delete)
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I say the same thing all the time. HSUS rocks. They have shut down puppy mills and brought to light animal abuse at auctions in this state.
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12/06/10, 06:03 PM
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I say the same thing all the time. HSUS rocks. They have shut down puppy mills and brought to light animal abuse at auctions in this state.
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ETA: I'm all for animal welfare. It's animal rights activists that get me! Now, I do admit, we all have a moral obligation to be nice to animals, but they don't have rights. It's the other way around: We have the right to be nice to animals!
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12/06/10, 06:06 PM
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I say the same thing all the time. HSUS rocks. They have shut down puppy mills and brought to light animal abuse at auctions in this state.
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You've got to be kidding?????
They are a 'soft rock' version of a terrorist orginization all about 'animal rights' extremism, out to end human/ animal interactions. They confuse their name with other, legit animal welfare groups and suck up money from well-intentioned but unsuspectiong people to go about their evil ways.
They do nothing for animals, thay are all about being anti-people.
They do not help animals. It's about hurting humans. They totally misrepresent themselves on purpose, as the quote from their website. That's all bunk if you look into the group.
Their goal is to end all farming & pet ownership, including homesteader goat milking, and anything to do with people involved with animals. Check it out, this is not an animal-friendly bunch, it is an anti-human bunch, all about collecting money & using it on themselves first, on more fund raising 2nd, trying to harrass or intimidate common folk 3rd, and actual animals see none of the money, not even last.....
Some of you are confused with your local or state animal welfare groups, which have _nothing_ to do with this HSUS group. It is why we use the initials of the group - they are not your local Hunane Society, they are a national-only group of liars that have no local places, do not deal with pets or strays, nothing at all like that.
HSUS = Evil.
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12/06/10, 06:12 PM
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what gets me is the local law enforcement calls in the HSUS as expert witnesses or for expert consultations......and almost every raid of any kind you read the so called expert HSUS makes statements, there is some false info. given. whether its outright lies, or its just pure ignorance on their part....yet they are the experts.
the good theyve done is FAR out weighed by the bad. and if given their way. the potential bad will be cataclysmic.
ray charles can see this, and hes blind, and now dead.
as stated........soft headed..........................
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12/06/10, 06:13 PM
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In my experience, most of the banner ads that I see are from websites that I just visited or googled or purchased from....just sayin'.
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I see bank loan type ads, and solar greenie ads.
I don't research or visit sites that would promote such ads in any way - this is the 'greenest' site I visit, and don't have a loan & haven't looked for or wanted one.
Always wondered how the ads were generated, figured it was keyed to the content of the thread or generic 'fall back to' ads like the loan sharks?
The ads help pay for this site so don't bother me, other than I don't like to see terrorist groups featured, as I do consider HSUS to be. If I could I would object to the powers that be. I see late-nite 'free' promos on TV for this group as wellfrom time to time; comes from the confusion the group has caused, they intentionally mis-represent themselves as a long-standing animal welfare group - which they are _not_.
Pepsi got sucked into that group of late with their money give away to charitable groups; some of us farmers & other interested folk are trying to educate Pepsi on them as well. It's slow going in the corporate world....
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12/06/10, 06:14 PM
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Let's go back to Hurricane Katrina and New Orleans. I had some very caring friends who financed their trip to that area to rescue dogs. They found out quickly that HUSUS and ASPCA were in a big struggle to get all the dogs they could round up. They did not want anyone to find homes for these dogs nor take them out of the area for adoption. My friends finally found a private person who was caring for many stray dogs and took mostly mixed breed puppies back to Joplin and we all took some of the puppies had them vet checked and adopted them out.
I lost most of my respect for both organizations at that time. Obviously they were in it for the money and all the free publicity. They did let some rich person load his jet with obvious purebred dogs to take back to California!!!
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12/06/10, 06:29 PM
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I say the same thing all the time. HSUS rocks. They have shut down puppy mills and brought to light animal abuse at auctions in this state.
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It's more likely that another group shut down the puppymills and exposed auction abuse and H$U$ jumped in front of the camera first. They did the same thing w/ the Vick case. Best Friends and BADRAP did all the work saving and rehabbing those dogs. They even battled H$U$ in courst b/c H$U$ want the dogs destroyed. Show me where H$U$ ever gave either of those two groups any credit.
Then there was the Oprah puppymill episode where Wayne Pacelle sat on her couch in an expensive suit. It was the other man and his group that go out to puppymills and try to save the worn out breeding dogs from a bullet in the head. And it was that group that put up billboards begging Oprah to do a show on the issue. Pacelle and the H$U$ were just their to steal the limelight.
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12/06/10, 06:43 PM
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Think I will make one of those "Sea Kitten" steaks we caught on the Columbia and then follow this thread.
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12/06/10, 06:59 PM
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I say the same thing all the time. HSUS rocks. They have shut down puppy mills and brought to light animal abuse at auctions in this state.
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Or a better way to say this is that they have destroyed the livelihoods of hard working Americans...........
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12/06/10, 07:34 PM
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You've got to be kidding?????
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Nope. I am a cheerleader for animal rights. I believe that the number of breeders should be limited on a national scale.
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12/06/10, 07:52 PM
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I run ad blockers so I don't see the ads but if you click on the PETA, HSUS and other ads from evil people you transfer 5 cents or something like that from the evil organization to your favorite web site, e.g., HT. What a great way to force HSUS and PETA to donate to HT!
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