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Old 12/06/10, 01:48 PM
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A good wage would be one with the yearly million dollar bonus so you could retire quickly and dont wear out your body for a meager hand to mouth existance. You know like those folk doing the legal mortgage scams on wall street.....

Honest folk are now long term unemployed, yet the wall street scammers with the bonuses that caused the problem are back to their old compensation levels thanks to govt handouts. Lotta gain, no pain.... Thank you Mr. Bush and Mr. Obama....
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Old 12/06/10, 04:09 PM
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A good wage would be one with the yearly million dollar bonus so you could retire quickly and dont wear out your body for a meager hand to mouth existance. You know like those folk doing the legal mortgage scams on wall street.....

Honest folk are now long term unemployed, yet the wall street scammers with the bonuses that caused the problem are back to their old compensation levels thanks to govt handouts. Lotta gain, no pain.... Thank you Mr. Bush and Mr. Obama....
You said it!!!!
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Old 12/06/10, 04:22 PM
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I think that all depends on your expenses. The higher your expenses, the more money you will need.
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Old 12/06/10, 07:55 PM
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What do you see as a good wage , not riches and not scrapeing by but enough to live reasonably and humanly?
Enough that I pay my bills but don't pay the government much. Once you get beyond that the government starts taking more and more. If I want something specific then I'll earn a little more but I loath the government's greed.
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Old 12/06/10, 08:49 PM
 
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How much is minimum wage where you live? Here, it is $7.40/hour. If someone worked 35-40 hours/week they'd probably bring home around $200 after taxes. Day care costs average about $200/week so it would make more sense for women here with children to stay home and collect welfare rather than work for those wages.
Like 9.75 or something close. I don't believe you can be on welfare and own your own house.
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Old 12/06/10, 09:19 PM
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I've thought about this some more and I think a good wage is a wage where one can live without government handouts to survive, save for retirement, and not have to worry about going bankrupt over a medical expenses.
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Just the fact that the government handouts are even considered as a factor for calculation is sad. If someone is on the government tit, they aren't making a decent wage or self sufficient, but someone else is, and paying for them.

A good wage is what ever you can make people think your worth.

Past that, a decent wage is what you get paid.

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Old 12/07/10, 02:41 PM
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I make $10.18 an hour, work a 40 hour week (overtime is VERY rarely allowed), and have just enough health coverage (paid for out of my check) that I wouldn't go bankrupt if I had to have surgery. I consider it a "decent" wage but not a "good" one. It's enough to pay my bills, buy critter food, and feed my husband and I. He has a permanent disability which limits the type of work he can do, and unfortunately none of those jobs are hiring in our area. We get by, but just barely most months. We don't complain because we are able to pay our bills, which is why I call it "decent." To me, "good" would mean the bills are paid and we have enough left over at the end of each month to be able to build up some savings.
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It all depends on what it costs me for health care. That was 2x my mortgage before I paid it off.

If I didn't have that to worry about I could live pretty well on $10/hr but my tastes are inexpensive. My favorite recreation is hiking instead of going to the casino or on trips.
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Old 12/07/10, 03:34 PM
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I have inexpensive tastes too.....my favorite recreation is riding my horse in the pasture or on trail rides.

What's expensive for us right now are the medical bills I'm paying off, and the credit card bills. We only use the CC for honest to goodness emergencies (like car repairs that can't wait), but that builds up over time. Stuff like that though is why I wish we had enough to put back in savings. If we could put back even $50 a month in savings, then we wouldn't have to use the CC for stuff like that. I just thank God we haven't needed to use it in a couple of years.
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I once knew some Mennonites that refused to earn enough to pay federal taxes due to their pacifism. They also did not accept government benefits.

According to Uncle Sam they were in poverty, but thrift and hard work had them living pretty nice.
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