Never go about the homestead unarmed

I started carrying on the property after the skunk situation last April. And Nick has asked me to PLEASE always carry the shotgun if I go out after dusk - which I do.

No, I don't like the idea of shooting something, but I'm much better with that idea than the thought of getting bit, attacked, or otherwise mauled by an animal.

Our neighbor's middle-aged daughter was riding her horse in their pasture a few weeks back. Another neighbor's bull got loose and charged the horse. The daughter was thrown from the horse and broke her back.

ALWAYS a good idea to carry protection.

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Horseyrider, we had a Texas Longhorn bull, he would go right to the stock fencing at a fencepost. Put his horns in the wire, and lift, go to the next one and do the same thing. He knew exactly what he was doing. Had another one that was only mean to the calfs, he had to go too. We now have a Angus Bull, he was a show bull, UofM. He was handled, got him at 12 mo. He is now 2200 lbs. He is nicer than any of the cows. I've also never had a problem with any of the stud horses I've handled, I actually prefer them over a mare. It's all in the handeling and makeing sure you know what the animal can do- you must always respect that.

This happened last May!!!!!!

WERNERSVILLE, Pa. - An eastern Pennsylvania man was attacked and killed by a "temperamental" pet bull a day before his 53rd birthday, the coroner's office said Monday.

Ricky Weinhold, of Reinholds, was attacked Saturday by a 1-ton bull on a farm where he leased barn space in Wernersville, about 60 miles northwest of Philadelphia, Berks County Deputy Coroner Terri Straka said. The son of the farm's owner found his body Sunday in an outdoor pen.

The property owners had encouraged Weinhold to get rid of the bull, Straka said. She said the same animal believed responsible for the weekend attack rammed Weinhold last summer, breaking several of his ribs.

"He's been known to be temperamental," Straka said of the bull. "The property owners just didn't trust him. They told Ricky, 'This bull has got a bad disposition.' "

Weinhold kept about 10 head of cattle at the farm, all of them as pets. Straka said it's not clear what precipitated Saturday's attack. The bull recently fathered a calf, but Straka said bulls are not as protective of their offspring as cows.

"We don't know if this is a playful thing, or a nasty, agitated, angry thing," she said.

No one witnessed the attack. All of Weinhold's injuries appear to have been inflicted by a bull's head and hooves.

"The poor man, he loved his animals," Straka said. "They were his pets."

Never make a pet out of a bull that's a recipe for disaster!

I had a friend who has Highlands and she had a bull who figured out he could hook his horns in the gate and lift it right off the hinges. Needless to say he was very quickly made into hamburger.

Unless you get lucky, a handgun is just going to make the bull notice you and make you that much more of a target. Very unlikely to stop him before he turns you into humanberry jam.

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Had a hereford bull once that would charge me every time he was fed hay. Used to stop his charge with a 3 ft long shock probe to the nose. Makes a believer of you when all that stands between you and eternity is 4 c-cells.

A 357 with a heavier bullet will kill any younger bulls. After they get 3-4 years old, you'll want a 45 Colt or a larger magnum, then there is no problem.

Out here this is an open range state. It is your responsibility to fence animals out of your property because cattle are running everywhere during grazing season.

knew a guy that used too take down bulls with a .22!! and no, it was a heart attack after too many years of hard drinking!! still get the call to go chase critters!! gettin too slow though!!

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"Good" people don't let their large and aggressive animals roam the neighborhood terrorizing the other residents

Or let dogs run loose, for that matter.

Raise your expectations of their behavior, have a talk with them, and make them understand that the bull needs to stay in their field or go to heaven.

Several years ago, an older neighbor of mine was killed by a bull that charged her and knocked her down.

You mention that the bull has been a problem for some time. It's only pure luck that no one has been seriously, or fatally, harmed by this animal.

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Most any handgun, with PROPER bullet placement , will stop a bull fairly quickly.

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We had a Brahman bull we raised from a calf 10 yrs ago until he died last winter. I had no problem walking up to him and rubbing his head. The only problem I had was getting between him and the truck and have him nudge me with his bony forehead. But I'd never run toward him or do anything to agitate him....just common sense. Same with horses, and I have a stud that has never given me any problem. The only time I've been kicked was when one of the mares was eating I walked beside her, about 3 ft from her hip, and she swung around and kicked me. I believe she was thinking I was one of the cows.
Pony, even if your neighbor had a gun on her I think she might've been thrown before she had a chance to fire an accurate shot, or the firing could've spooked the horse.

There's this very attractive woman who lives very close to me who shoots a .454 Casull handgun. That handgun was designed to stop a charging grizzly bear. I assume it would also stop a bull.

Click the photo below to watch her shoot her revolver.

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That's why I've been looking for a Springfield M-6 for my needs. In a holster sling attached to the go-mobile, it meets Michigan law(I could maybe out-argue the game warden...) if it is carried with the ammo stored in the stock, not in the chambers. The .410 slug wouldn't stop a charging bull, perhaps, but would disable a four wheeler, if necessary. And still be ready, with the .22 barrel, for the woodchuck brave enough to stroll around in plain sight. But, pricey, very pricey.....

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When I was in high school, a guy I knew had a mom that was cornered and attacked by a bull. She died a few days later from the injuries. They had been raising cattle for 40+ years.
Very sad incident.

I have several bulls-on-the-fight stories, but one that illustrates lack of respect was one day on the ranch we lived on 10 years ago.

DH, the 19 year old kid that worked with him and the foreman of the ranch were all semen testing bulls.
They had one on the fight who simply would not go into the alley. In fact, he was charging anything that moved so DH and the kid were sitting up on the catwalk, waiting for him to quiet down. The foreman on the other hand was trying to keep things going for the vet and was exasperated that these two young bucks (DH and Brad) were scared of a bull.

So, at 60 years old (ie, old enough to know better!), he jumped down in the tub to beat on this bull and get him up the alley. And show those two sissies how to work bulls.

That bull hit him head-on in the ribs three times before DH and Brad managed to drag him back up by his jacket.
He was lucky he only had two broken ribs out of the incident.

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Cabin Fever I'd say with hot loads and hollow points that should do the trick

Is that the same gun Sarah P carries in her ankle holster :smiley-laughing013:

I know this isn't the weapons discussion thread, but I would think you may have issues using hollow points from a pistol. I'm betting the expansion would happen too early and not get enough penetration to do the job. I carry hollow points for urban self defense, but in the woods I usually switch to full metal jacket / ball ammo. It's been my thinking that a bear or pig is tough enough to expand a hollow point and absorb the energy on the outside before doing any (or enough) internal damage to stop the threat.

You are correct, just because its loose doesn't make it dangerous. But charging through the neighbors fence to get him does.

Bull on the loose stories are always scary. The dogs accompany me when I am out on foot on our farm, and they would at least give me the chance to get to safety if something came after us.

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[QUOTE=farmergirl;4765617]"Good" people don't let their large and aggressive animals roam the neighborhood terrorizing the other residents

Or let dogs run loose, for that matter.

Raise your expectations of their behavior, have a talk with them, and make them understand that the bull needs to stay in their field or go to heaven.

Several years ago, an older neighbor of mine was killed by a bull that charged her and knocked her down.

You mention that the bull has been a problem for some time. It's only pure luck that no one has been seriously, or fatally, harmed by this animal.[/QUOT

Well that is true. But they did bring me thier big generator two years ago during an ice storm when we were without power for 17 days. They just did it on thier own without being asked.
I think I will talk to them when I see them out on the road. Dh (who had a stroke two years ago and is still not walking very steadily) ususally opens our road gate when he knows I'm on my way home from work. Yesterday the bull came up our drive way. DH sent our aussie out to send him on his way. Course the bull didn't pay any attention to the dog. The bull eventually left. But I can't have that animal around us. DH can't get out of his own way, much less out of the way of an aggressive animal. I think I'll go make a phone call now as a matter of fact