Cost of everything is going up

You're brushing a broad stroke. What about women whose husbands died? And a million other circumstances out of her control that left a woman to be a single mother?

Women who are working and trying to avoid welfare are generally more responsible than those of multi-generational welfare families.

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What makes you think she made poor choices??? It takes two people to raise a child. What about Deadbeat dads who haven't stepped up to their responsibilities and let their kids go hungry?

I've looked and looked and looked and looked, and I can't find anything that says that Obama is cutting funding for children's day cares.

I have found some things that say that Obama is cutting federal funding for the *enlargement* of adult day care centers....but nothing about federal funding for day care for children.

Isn't gov. sponsored and sliding scale children's day care a state thing? I have found a bunch of stuff about different STATES cutting funding for day cares, and some other stuff about how the state funded day care system has been wonderful for keeping unemployment rates lower, but nothing about this stuff on a federal scale.

Enlighten me, pretty please? Where has this happened?

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"Moral Responsibility is what is lacking in a man when he demands it of women." -- Karl Krauss

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Caliann

"First, Show me in the Bible where it says you can save someone's soul by annoying the hell out of them." -- Chuck

Oh gee... it's been a week or two or three since I read about that. I can try to find it again.

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Please? Honest, I *have* looked myself for it, and I am just coming up empty. Lots of stuff on how the adult day cares are getting *growth* cuts (Sorry, we just cannot fund adding to your current facilities.), but nothing on cutting any federal benefits on *current* child day care programs.

Did find a couple of articles where they are planning to ADD day care benefits to the Health Care things, but nothing on cutting anything we currently have.

Really....I *have* looked myself!

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Caliann

"First, Show me in the Bible where it says you can save someone's soul by annoying the hell out of them." -- Chuck

Ok, I've been looking. I did find mentions being made about an increase of day care funding.

I also ran across this which I think I must have read about and then misremembered it as being about Obama: http://newamericamedia.org/2010/10/e...gger-moves.php

Very sorry. I usually manage to keep my facts straight.

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Yeah, I remembered the cut in California child care. Governor Arnold, the not-Republican, not-Democrat, but-will-run-under-the-Republican-ticket, pulled that one.

~shrugs~ I thought it was kind of odd that a Democrat would cut funding for a social program.

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Caliann

"First, Show me in the Bible where it says you can save someone's soul by annoying the hell out of them." -- Chuck

In my family they would be taken care of by relatives until they were school age.

You need to look at the long term social effects: a girl grows up her whole life while her family was on welfare, gets pregnant, goes on welfare, the cycle repeats.... This used to be very common in the inner cities and is why policies have changed.

It still is common in big cities.

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What has changed?

If a mother is only making $90 a week, after childcare, and before any other expenses - she IS living on welfare or some one is helping her.

Four generations on welfare is not uncommon and not only in the inner cities.

Not everyone is that lucky.

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Anyhoo, back to the original topic, it seemed to me like grocery prices were really creeping up steadily for the past few months. Tonight there was a mention on the news that Missouri is a little ABOVE the national average on grocery prices. Traditionally the cost of living has been lower here than that national average. No explanation was offered in the news bit and I can't think of a good reason, either. But at least I know it's not just me, the prices really are going up. Note to self, next year, we are putting in more garden!

BTW - family members watched my kid when he was little, too, but they still were paid! Some couples do a day and night shift and "tag team" their kids, but that is hard.

Young girls seem to have that problem whether in the city or not. Many think rural areas are like Currier & Ives prints. Rural areas have more poverty,welfare,drugs and unwed mothers. Also many 3rd. gen welfare recepients, but they're mainly white so they don't make good news stories.

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I saw that too. We only shop about once every month and a half and the prices at Walmart were noticeably higher this last time. We paid more per pound for a turkey than my daughter did who lives in Alaska. Unleaded has gone from $2.45 a gallon to $2.70 in a matter of 3 weeks, and just about everything else has inched higher as well.

I have also noticed that some of the locals are really feeling the pinch...its going to be a long dismal winter it looks like.

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If you look at what you said here, it really is welfare either way, isn't it?

I understand there might be an attitude difference perhaps.

But, if it's welfare on a card, or welfare on a daycare of about $200, there ain't no one avoiding welfare really.

One of the TV stations here in MN spent a week on the welfare cards sent out in MN - folks were getting tattooes, cigs, the cards were used in something like 45 of the 50 states, and quite a few were used in the Virgin Islands. And so on.

Now, this is govt money out of your & my pocket, and perhaps I understand poor folk visiting family in another state... But why should you or I be buying folks tats, or vaccations in the Virgin Islands?

Whatever good intentions and however people are suffering from poverty, there is a line there that needs to be crossed back to the good side to keep these programs worthwhile. If they are abused this badly, then something has to change, and perhaps cancelling the program altogether is one option.

Me, I don't mind helping the down & out, but - come on.

--->Paul

I use to shop Walmart for things like TP, laundry detergent, feminine hygiene products, produce and cola. I hardly go there anymore as now I coupon more (and all local stores except WM double up to 50 cents), cut out the cola and shop loss-leaders. WM just isn't a good deal anymore. Heck, their 'clearance' prices are a joke with literally a few cents off original price. Yesterday, I shopped Krogers discount table. Everything I bought was at least half off PLUS I had coupons for some of the items. I check Kroger everytime I am in town for deals like these.

Ok. Let's make welfare dependant on a woman's husband being dead. That shouldn't be hard for her to prove. In times past, the local church would help out the local widows, not only with money, but also with raising the children. That's because the woman and her husband would have been members of the local church.

As for the other million circumstances, they inevitable come down to poor life choices. Poor choices in a mate, poor choices in having cheap and easy sex with whatever man comes along, sex before marriage, sex after marriage but not with your husband or wife.... the list goes on. Bottom line is, live your life God's way and you won't have to worry about being a single mother.

Pete

Another thread that has veered way off topic.

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