Deer Season

Nobody 'owns' a deer, unless it's behind a high fence!

SueMc... back in 'the day', if someone had told my pa about a deer infestation, and willing landowners, he'd'a put the camper shell on the truck, and all of us would have headed out to help folks out. Growing up, he'd get the itch, and a few days ahead of time, he'd inform us we were going to Colorado, deer hunting! Just a thousand mile drive...

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Archery season is almost over here. Gun season starts the monday after Thanksgiving & can't wait. Will be on my property in north central Pa. I alway donate a deer or more to Hunters Feeding the Hungery. Just pay for the processing & it helps to feed the homeless.

Sounds like a good excuse for a roadtrip! I have a friend in Louisiana who is a swamp man, fishing and hunting guide. He comes to IL to hunt deer with another friend of his and that friend goes to LA to fish and hunt with him. Sounds like a good trade off.

only if the envelope contains money , if it is just a thankyou card your fine

but if you happen to ask what they shot it with when the call to arange pick up and pick up a box to replace the shots used well thats a bit greyer

I wish you would come on down and take back a few thousand from Georgia. I had three of them run out in front of me in a one hour trip this week. One barely missed me. I saw six others that had been hit, lying on the side of the road on that same short trip. This is all in the daytime. I am afraid to drive in the country at night.

The population here has exploded over the last couple of decades especially. They have raised the number hunters can take. I remember it being three a year for much of my life. Now, if memory serves it is thirteen, counting muzzle loader and bow days.

Christy - be very careful, in some states it is a very serious offense to buy/ sell wild game or fish. Of course. gifting of wild game/ fish is usually allowed. It may be your bad luck to have a Gung-Ho Game Warden/ L.E.O. in your area, that could catch you in the act. Plus my former employer - The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service - and it's Law Enforcement Branch, also likes to make an example of such offenders that are buying or selling any wildlife parts.

Common Tator - sorry to hear that you didn't see a single deer in firearms season, after you went to the effort to be 'legal'... Well you can get a Bear Tag, for that pesky bruin that likes to play with your car. Plus you won't have to go thru all of the training in preperation, for next year's hunt.

Up here, the deer are thick as fleas, and wander around right outside my house even with the stereo blasting away. I will go outside and wave firearms at them, and they just turn their backs to me and go back to eating!



This love sick romeo - I called him 'Flank Steak', was harvested during the archery season a while back. He was following a doe that had just passed by my window, and she had 1st caught my attention.

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well I made my calls , needless to say they where confused a bit.
think I explained well enough, first person said its illegal to sell game, reiterated the question and it is not illegal ,second said it was a civil matter ? again pointed out its game and money changing hands so no its a DNRE matter and had to clarify the question. again no no law says you cant so again not illegal.

what bothers me though is there's no law here that says you can, so well not illegal I see a huge grey zone and as no law covers it IMO well not illegal its also not legal. laws spell out what is and isn't allowed. the other is law is open to interpretation.

I also called a local processor one of our larger ones, he said its legal and he use to have a huge problem he now requires a large deposit and has no more issue. which seems to nip the problem in the bud.

I don't think anyone here would be called out for it as long as you used the correct language,"CO.-where did you get the venison "Suspect" I reimbursed a processor for the processing fee on a abandoned deer at his facility.
but even a slight slip of the tongue and you hung yourself such as anything relating to buy,bought,purchased.

but again here in Michigan I see this as a huge gray zone, open to abuse.
I'm sure somebody is abusing it somewhere. they bust processors all the time skimming meat and selling it. of course they are the licensed thats how they know to find them, but every season theres a ton of locals that have signs up and more then sure they are not.

I'm just surprised this never crossed the desks of our DNRE as anal as they are.

I ventured a call to nys conservation and that practice is illegal there.

the processor can donate,give away the meat and claim a loss on it for the fees but he cant transfer the meat to a third party for those fees.

all I can say is I wish we had your dept, the was a very easy call and conversation, no double talk phone tag transfer long hold time, definitive clear answer the first time, man professional.

As long as it has a legal tag on it, they give the owner a chance to come and get it. If they don't they give you the deer, you just have to pay for it to be processed.

I'll take the risk.

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look talked to a NYS CO he was very clear he said it constitutes sale of wild game, the guy can give to you but he cant ask you reimburse him for his fee. the original party I talked to prior to being transfered to the CO said it was coincidence that I called with this question be cause they had a simular "case" they where investigating.

if you dont belive me you can always call and ask a CO yourself. heres the office I called.

Public Protection,Law Enforcement, Forest Protection and Fire Management
Henry Hamilton
Assistant Commissioner (518) 402-8552

its no skin off my nose either way but thought you should be aware.

What else is he supposed to say?

IMO, you pay $24 for a limited deer tag, you should be able to do with it, what you want.

Once could always give the deer away and accidentally "find" an envelope, with a few bucks in it, on the ground. "Finders keepers" is legal, isn't it?

I didn't say I don't believe you... as I said... I'll take the risk. I'm not all that concerned about it.

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Well, if none of the above suggestions work, what about this?

Go and talk to your neighbor hunters. Surely someone you know and are friends with has no trouble getting their limit? See if they would be interested in harvesting one for you. If they agree - go out and buy your hunting license and give the tag you fill out to put on the deer to them.

I know, I know, each person has a limit they can harvest each year. But if you have a license and they have a license, if you WOULD be out in the woods, you would be shooting one too, so it's just a matter of them killing the deer for you.

About the only way of getting caught would be if the game warden shows up just as they are tagging the deer under your name with your tag. Once it's tagged and loaded on their truck - even if they would be stopped by the game commission - on their way to the processor for you or to their house until you can get it, the deer is legally tagged and they were transporting it for you (of course, they WOULDN'T want to mention that you are at work and have been all day!).

I know the above is somewhat unethical, but the game commission does NOTown the deer. And if your neighbor has a hunting license and you have a hunting license, what's the difference whether you kill one and the neighbor kills one, or the neighbor kills both his and yours? You both have the legal licenses required.

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Michael W. Smith in North-West Pennsylvania

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Pity you're not near here. The deer are EVERYWHERE. There's not a soul I know who hasn't bought a deer with the front end of the car/truck/minivan.

We got two deer last year, courtesy of the local sheriff. We're on the list to get a call when there's a freshly killed deer by the side of the road.

First one, I was so proud of myself. It was a doe, and I got close to 50 pounds of meat from it. Not bad for the first large animal I'd ever processed. Got it all done and bagged before Nick got home from work.

Second one was a MUCH bigger doe. Dang near hurt myself getting it on the gambrel (Nick was at work for that one, too). Second deer took longer to process.

Still, if it's cold outside or you have fridge/freezer space, it's not a huge matter to dress it out and cut it into manageable pieces.

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I really didn't mean to start a war on this.

Bottom line: I never come to anyone's house without a gift. Whether it's a plate of home made cookies or something much bigger, it is our way. So there.

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It's too bad you're not closer to us--each person can get up to 5 doe permits/day here. The DNR is saying that there are 100 deer/square mile in our county. My husband already got the two that we need for meat during bow season and he'll probably get a couple more during gun season for family/friends. We do all of the processing ourselves.

Deer were like rats around here, until the NC Wildlife resources commission bought the land behind me. A couple seasons of a hunting club coming through pretty well took care of that problem. Because the deer were such a pestilence on my garden and fruit orchard(I spend hundreds of dollars fencing everything in) I was glad to let those guys go through my property to access the back side of the Wildlife lands. To my surprise, they brought me a couple garbage bags full of processed and vacuum packed venison, well over a hundred pounds. Just for letting them go through my land. So, I recommend that you try calling a few hunting clubs, Those guys had much rather hunt deer than eat them, apparently.

Plenty deer here in S central TX hill country.

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