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Old 12/21/03, 01:31 PM
 
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No, its much bigger than that. It's a 4wd Diesel with a front end loader. It's about the same size as a Ford 9N but has live hydraulics and like I said before 4wd and has a 3 pt hitch. It's not in very good shape cosmetically but runs well and gets the job done. We do have to take the loader off when we plow. Ron took it back to his place this summer though and never brought it back. He lives about 30 miles from me and it's a long trip over back roads to transport it between places. I have a picture of it too if anyone is interested.

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Old 12/21/03, 01:37 PM
 
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I read an interesting entry on a forum on Yesterday's Tractors about horsepower and tractors. I guess it's all tied up with pto speed and torque and involves math and mechanical things that make my head spin so I don't know what it all means but what it boiled down to is that some of these older tractors, although they have similar hp ratings as some of the newer ones actually have more power. It made sense when I read it but don't ask me to repeat it LOL. If I had my druthers, I'd have a team of horses and horsedrawn equipment and not have to worry about these smoke belching noisy things anyway. That's for the future though I guess.

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Old 12/21/03, 02:16 PM
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No, its much bigger than that. It's a 4wd Diesel with a front end loader. It's about the same size as a Ford 9N but has live hydraulics and like I said before 4wd and has a 3 pt hitch. It's not in very good shape cosmetically but runs well and gets the job done. We do have to take the loader off when we plow. Ron took it back to his place this summer though and never brought it back. He lives about 30 miles from me and it's a long trip over back roads to transport it between places. I have a picture of it too if anyone is interested.

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I get the idea and yes it should handle at least a 2-14 plow especially with diesel and 4wd. I didnt know anything bigger than garden tractor was sold under Bolens name. Believe me there are times I'd gladly trade my antiques for nice modern 35 hp 4wd diesel tractor. Other times I appreciate what I have even if its stubborn and clunky for a particular job. Also fun having people see the old Massey and Allis and ask if they really run. I've been fooled by looks before also. Remember one auction I went to. There was an old Catapiller bulldozer (D6 or something like that) cable operated blade with a good size tree growing up through it. Brambles everywhere. Looked like it had been sitting in that one spot for 50 years. Figured scrap dealer had his work cut out. Surprise, it started right up although it smoked like son of a gun. Auctioneer bought it himself and gave like $3000 for it. Couple scrap dealers there that looked unhappy.
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Old 12/21/03, 08:46 PM
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Like Hermit said your soil type will make a big difference in the plow you can pull. So will the the soil moisture, plowing depth, sod, or a crop residue top, condition of the moleboards, how well it's set up on the tractor and the type of plow. A 3pth plow will force you to tip the right wheel into the previous furrow and on the loose soil, and onland puts both wheels on the undisturbed ground for better traction. Shiney moleboards will draw a heck of a lot easier than rusty ones. A plow that isn't pulled level (to the ground not the tractor) will be a real HP pig and leave a mess. The soil should not be too dry either or it will be like dropping an anchor!
I have a Kverneland 3/16 auto reset 3pth which is a pretty decent plow but I'd trade it in a heartbeat (if I could afford the extra) on a modern onland or if I stuck to a 3pth I want a rollover plow. Think 2 plows welded one upside down ontop of the other and a hydraulic pivot so the plow is flipped over to plow right back on the previous row with all the furrows going the same way. No deadfurrows and fewer missed areas to chase. Heaven! A narrower plow does a neater job too so look for 12 or 14 inch wide furrows, my 16 inch can be a chore to disc and cultivate if the plowing isn't perfect!
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Old 12/21/03, 08:55 PM
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Older tractors often had larger engines delivering low hp at high torque. Basically you had the rated power sooner and it took longer to fall away under strain. They also don't loose power for things like power steering, large hydraulic pumps or AC. So yes an older tractor might pull a bigger plow than a newer tractor of the same HP but remember it IS OLDER so alightened work load to keep things from breaking would be wise. BTW my 3/16 auto reset takes a good 60 hp to haul through clay loam soil. 75 if its too wet or too dry A 2/12 is half the draw of my plow.
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