What to do when you can't shoot dogs?

LOL she was asking to use ours...and look how much help you gave her.

I'm a mom too. When my little boy was your daughter's age, there were three separate incidents of dogs trying to attack him. I used to love dogs, rescued, rehomed, volunteered shelters, all of it. Had one or three all my life.

I sit here dogless and it's going to take alot for me to trust one ever again.
Understanding hugs from here. I had those nightmares too, they are graphic and horrible. My DH was away so... yeah. Rather scary being a mom on your own with nasty dogs around.

I do tend to agree with fantasymaker, this woman is unstable, and I like his fence + shh disposable method. I would probably call the police out every single time. I don't know your setup, but if I could, despite not trusting dogs, I probably would have a couple Pyrs. Reality is that *your* dog won't hurt you... yeah, I know, doesn't help when you've been traumatized by something trying to bite your child.

I'm anti poison as can be, I think it's horrible. In this case, though, on your neighbor's head be it. You can't keep that baby inside all the time. Even if you take her to the park to play, you have to walk the gauntlet from your house to the car.

Perhaps rent a live trap from the feed store and call in AC once the dog is trapped?

Or even, if possible, a couple mules that Do Not Like dogs?

TBH, I have a solid wood/hot wire fence, and the parts not against my probelm dog's fence are barbed wire//goat fence/hot wire. It doesn't stop a determined dog in the least. Fences are nice but unreliable when it comes to your child's safety.

And while a bow is efficient and silent, no way can a woman in a back brace draw one. Nor would it be my weapon of choice for a trio of dogs at close range.

No one should live like that. I am so sorry.

Lightbulb; perhaps call a breed rescue and let them know there are a bunch of *whatever these dogs are* being neglected and allowed to roam? Seriously, sick the dog rescue folks on her.

Well then. What should she do to ensure the safety of her tiny child?

Perhaps leave biscuits strewn about her property so the poor pooches will think her a friend? Have a nice chat with the misunderstood Lassie-dogs and explain that babies are not snack food? Threaten to call their mothers?

What would you suggest?

Just get proof take them to Court and Sue them.I did this and Won.Plus I had couple Guys shoot my Dogs I Sued and Won that too :banana02:

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Can't you get a friend to let your husband park his truck at their house and drop him at yours late at night so the neighbor will not know he is home? You said she only lets the dogs out when she thinks you are home alone with your baby. Then the next day, when the dogs are out, put the crying baby doll in the stroller and send Hubby out with it and his gun. Problem solved. Just be sure to bury them and keep your mouth shut about it so she won't know ya'll are the ones that offed them since she seems to be nuts and you don't want retaliation again.

Nobody knows what to do except the OP. Yes, she is here for fresh ideas....but killing dogs being dogs because they have a poor owner would be going to war.

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like the one above. It's something entirely different to actually contribute something
to the conversation and give a REAL HARD thought yourself.
Apparently you have nothing ......can't even be bothered to get all the 'facts' in
this particular case....because you haven't even read them. What's your solution then, Einstein???



I'm of the same opinion as MaveRick.....if I had the time, and was a bit closer.....
I'd be more than happy to help out ThisLittlePiggy ......I know EXACTLY
what a .22 LR does, to a dog gone bad. In her case, I'd suggest a 12ga with buckshot at very close range.

Franky, all you people that agree to kill the dogs are really selfish....... Just seems like a barbaric approach to something that can be solved without the life of multiple animals.

While I really have no desire to defend my opinion, or to read all the intricacies to what I already have visualized in this situation, I will suggest what I can over the internet.

Don't kill the dogs. Do what you have to do to not do that.

I didn't want to be very involved in this discussion, just wanted to speak on the dogs behalf.

copperkid3, i'm sure you're a good person, but....well why don't you kill those dogs with your bare hands? seriously....

Ah, nevermind.

lol, there just comes a point where you have to give up, doesn't there?


To the OP: This sounds like a horrible situation, and I'm really sorry you have to deal with it.

I do like the idea of having your hubby "sneak in" one night so the neighbor doesn't know he's there.

Personally, I would use a trap and shoot them from there, then see if you can get someone to help you dispose.

If you do try the doll, let us know how it goes, I'd be interested in the dogs' reactions to it.

I believe I can safely say that the majority of us here are dog lovers. No one here would go out dog hunting for sport. These dogs are the unfortunate victims of a bad owner. However, they are also a menace to this lady's safety and the safety of her child. When it comes down to the welfare of an animal vs. the welfare of a human being, I am sorry but the human being is just more important. While attempting to "do the right thing" by taking the problem before the court all she accomplished was getting her goats (allegedly--we have no proof the neighbor poisoned them but. . . ) killed by an obviously unstable and vindictive dog owner. The local officials appear to not be worth the skin they are wrapped in insofar as doing their jobs is concerned so, the options for dealing with the problem are dwindling rapidly. What would you do to resolve this without having the put the animals down? Please tell us as I am extremely curious what your solution would be.

As I said earlier, I don't have a solution. Nobody here knows the truth, misinterpreted or not. If she's here to feel better about killing the dogs because internet tough guys say it's ok, well I won't help her feel better about it.

One thing I question, the OP says she don't wanna leave the child inside while she feeds.....why not? Wouldn't the baby be safer inside?

I just don't see this situation extreme enough to murder a bunch of dogs. If people don't like my opinion, so be it.

Rebel, I appreciate your civility.

One thing I would urge people to do is learn to understand the difference between a herding dog that is working the livestock vs a dog that is attacking livestock. A herding dog may nip but has a goal of moving the stock to a place, bring them to you, bunching them up into a circle, etc. To the untrained eye the herd dog looks like it is attacking animals but it is not. It is using the minimum necessary effort to make livestock herds obey. Please don't confuse a herding dog with an attacking dog.

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I am not an "internet tought guy" in case I was included in that statement. I am a fat, middle aged grandma who had to sit and hold my 5 year old granddaughter in the ER while a doctor stapled her head closed after a dog attacked her. I do have a bit of personal experience.

You are welcome though for the civility thanks. My opinion is that we can disagree with one another while still remaining civil and polite. Differing opinions are part of useful discourse.

Somehow I get the feeling that if the neighbor lady killed all his goats he'd be singing a different tune. And it's not like he actually offered you any help either......

It's got to be hard being there on your own with all that work and a baby. Just hang in there something will work out in the end!

The line was crossed when the dogs attacked (or attempted to attack) the child.
You took her to Court and she ignored the order, another line crossed.
It is likely she took steps to kill your goats. Who else would supply a can of beans? Also, this took some thought. I wouldn't have thought about beans being a method of killing them. That is a serious line crossed.

I always weigh my actions based on "push comes to shove" reality. If I call the police on a stray dog, I expect they will call the cops if I burn some leaves (or some other petty violation). If I shoot their dog for trying to kill my goats, I can expect that if my dog strays out of my yard, they will shoot it.

My first thought was a quiet method, like a hand full of asprins in a ball of hamburger. But clearly, she's capable of poisining your goats, so we are beyond all that.

A paintball gun leaves a message, but that would only be effective on less volitile situations.

A cona-bear trap can kill a coyote, so I think it'll kill a dog. Spike it down good, so they don't run home with it.

Wasp spray is as effective as mace, but shoots a much farther stream. Carry that when you are out.

Perhaps you could tape record your baby crying and play the tape while you are pushing an empty stroller. Easy to get a shot off that way, without risking the baby.
Then after you've shot one, get back in the house and report the attack on your baby to the police.

Trail Cameras are fairly cheap. Put one, out of sight, in an area where she's likely to throw something into the pen.

I'm glad I am not in your position. Knowing that what ever I do to protect my property will result in her doing something to me, my livestock or my property, would make her house very flamable. Let's hope it doesn't come to that.

If you get more goats, is there anyway to fence them away from the perimeter fence. Far enough away so that she can't throw something for the goats to eat that will kill them?

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That is a realistic option... Treat the dogs better than their owner does and they would become her dogs, and stop the behavior. Dogs are very opportunistic, and their behavior is governed by the consequences they experience to their actions.

Though tossing them a biscuit or treat directly when they approach would likely be required for the dogs to connect it to her.

No Patt, I wouldn't be singing a different tune.

An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.

To the OP, don't let go of your morals just because your neighbor has none. Don't stoop to her level.

I think a camcorder here is going to be your best friend. Also, somebody said tell the judge that his orders aren't being followed. Best advice yet.