What to do when you can't shoot dogs?

Im pretty sure fencing your property, learning and carrying a pistol or a pellet gun would all fix your problem. If you have to "set the dog up" to fail...wet food around where they getto your property will stall them long enough for a clean shot.

We don't have a leash law for dogs here but there is an animal at large ordinance for all animals. Check with township authorities and the county to see if there is one. If there is they can tell you the procedure to follow to report it. Take photos and document like the others advised and then call in the sheriff or whoever you have to report to. The fine here is around 200-300 dollars per animal. My neighbor has gotten better at keeping her animals under control since people started calling it in everytime they were out. They still get out but sooner or later she will get tired of paying the fines. Then again they were out yesterday and early this morning I heard some gunshots, it didn't sound like target practice. Hopefully someone is taking care of the problem. My neighbor is an animal collector/neglector too.

Can you borrow a small gun from someone that you can handle? If she sees you doing some target practice in your yard she might decide to control her animals. Since the police have told you to shoot them you don't have to feel bad about doing it.

Poison can be considered animal cruelty if you are targeting someones animals but if you have some meat going bad in your yard and they come into your yard and get sick from eating it that is not your problem. I would be careful with poison though.

Since the neighbor maced an old man and got away with it I guess mace is legal there? Get some!

I would also file a report when someone dumps food in your goat pens.

I would only add that if you are going to use mace or pepper spray on these dogs - be sure you are not facing into the wind... I know that sounds silly and simplistic, but I have heard of several people being their own victim...

Mary

Electric fence a good idea, teaches dogs lessons quickly. If not I would go with plan B. Birdshot. Probably wont kill them, wont kill a goat or cow if it scatters and will bounce off the nieghbors house(unless they are close) the caveat is I dont know your neighborhood so you be the best judge.

3 excellent suggestions here: 1. Videotape. Borrow a camera if you need to all you have to do is catch them once headed towards your baby and fire it off to the local police and the local News.
2. Call the Police every single day if you have to, the squeaky wheel gets the grease. You have a judgement against her, make them enforce it.
3. Fence. Seriously get a perimeter fence up ASAP. Have a BBQ and get all your friends and family to help you. Tell them your child is in danger and I am sure they will be willing to pitch in.

If you have to, put out a plate of dog food or raw meat in an area where you can get a safe, clean shot. Take the dead dogs to the same place you took the dead goats.

If your not an expert shot, become one.

You've given one warning... Country rules say that's all you need to do.

Do not repeatedly complain. Wait at least a month. Then disappear the dogs.

Then apply the golden rule of SSS Shoot Shovel and Shut Up. Never ever mention the dog again. To complain repeatedly and then the dog disappears, YOU are the prime suspect. For better or worse, Wars are started this way. Don't become a casualty.

I've contacted my neighbors, new and old, and reiterate on a regular basis...........if my dogs (that all run free) cause you any problem whatsoever, Let Me Know... and I'll make it right. There are no regular neighbors within 2 miles, so them getting into someone's livestock isn't an issue. I have been called, and cleared them to take out the offender (weren't my dogs... glad they did check first though!).

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Once an animal attempts to harm a child your county should become involved. If the woman has ignored the judge, tell the judge. Judges don't like it when someone ignores their orders.

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Sending you a PM now.

Get yourself a shotgun, one that holds five shells. And kill those ___________ (fill in the blank).

If they had come after my baby, after that first time I would be armed and they would be dead.

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In all honesty, I would catch the dog(s) and drive it to a pound 100+miles away then leave it there. If she woared about the animal, she would control it. Since she doesn't, take it to a pound like a good citizen should for a lost dog. But take it far far far away where she won't find it.

You, judging from this and your other posts, are against trapping/shooting/poisoning/ as a means of controlling problem canines. Your solution to any dog/coyote/wolf problem seems to be more or better or fencing.

It really doesn't matter what you have done to your property, not everyone has the physical ability or financial means to build a fortress around their property and live in fear inside a compound just to keep problem canines at bay. Nor should they have to!!

NOBODY should have to go to the labor and expense of double or triple or even single fencing to keep irresponsible neighbors vicious dogs off of their property. The dog owner should have to do whatever fencing is necessary to keep them on HER property. Why is that so difficult for you to understand?

I'm surprised you haven't advocated her getting rid of all of her livestock and her child......just so an idiot neighbor can continue to let her dogs terrorize the neighbors without interference or complaint.

I guarantee you if those dogs had molested any of my livestock or even appeared to threaten one of my kids; they would have already been taken care of, by whatever means it took to do the job.

The problem is it is expensive to take animals to a shelter, it is 30-50 dollars per animal here. If the woman keeps collecting dogs the op will go broke. An added problem is that if the dogs are vicious how do you drive them to the pound in your vehicle?

That's why I'm putting non climb horse fence around my perimiter...

To keep mine in, and others out...

The first neighbor that came by when I bought my place was a woman with two huge great danes, about the first thing she said was "everyone just lets their dogs run loose here", and a minute later commented on one the the danes being blind in one eye from buckshot when it was chasing a neighbors calf.

So for me it'll be woven hose fence with a 2" wide by 4" tall mesh all round, and winchester if they get past that.

One of other the reasons is that one of my german shepherds would be a big nuisance, wandering and killing small animals, and I know it. Sweet as she can be with people and other dogs, but she can't help it and lives to chase any other critters and kill em. So she won't be out of my sight outdoors, and kept indoors, until the fence is up.

option 1
Anti freeze in a small contianer in stratiegic spots around your property
option 2
Just shoot the ---- things and get it over with
option 3
LGD they work well

I recomend the ANTI FREEZE I have used it several times in similar situations it works perfect and its sorta sweet tasting to animals and they like it And you will be happy with the results

And if it was me and a dog even apears to threaten one of my babies, i will find the dog shoot it where ever i find it when ever i find it. a dog that threatens or attacks children is serious danger i have a friend who's niece got her whole cheek ripped off her face from a roving akita.

Nothing like telling them to purposely put their baby in harms way to make a point..........

Anti freeze is a cruel way to kill an animal. Just shoot them. Quicker and then you can get rid of the bodies. Keep killing anything come to your property and threatening you. Or tazer them then shoot them. Put em down then you can kill them easier. And as others have said, use a trap then you can kill them that way.

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Please don't poison...a rifle/handgun with a homemade suppressor,shovel,shutup..works every time...It is illegal to possess a suppressor without a tax stamp so this is theoretical advice.

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You can rent a live trap, one of those "have a heart" things.
Once it's in there, you can shoot it, haul it to the pound, whatever you like.
I wouldn't poison one either, the dog is just being a dog, he shouldn't suffer because the owner is an idiot.
Shooting is one thing, poison is another.

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Might want to check out http://www.in.gov/legislative/ic/cod.../ar46/ch3.html
(5) "Torture" means:
(A) to inflict extreme physical pain or injury on an animal with the intent of increasing or prolonging the animal's pain; or
(B) to administer poison to a domestic animal (as defined in section 12(d) of this chapter) or expose a domestic animal to a poisonous substance with the intent that the domestic animal ingest the substance and suffer harm, pain, or physical injury.

Most people don't much cotton to animal poisoners.