coyotes ....again

Tarbe , That is a very good point.

I know Tom Miranda mentions that very thing in a video he did on preditor trapping in the 90's. When he was explaining the reasons for trapping he had just taken a fox on a quail farm. His statement was "The outcome for this particular Fox was pretty obvious and bleek , but as for the population as a whole it is very benifitial to thin out some of the over population this Farm is being over run with Fox and now they are starting to spread desease amonst each other on top of raiding and killing the quail and costing this farmer precious profits." That fox had a sever case of mange , he explained it was the 5th one in a week he had taken from there with the mange.

Silverflame , Your correct that 1 clean shot is the fastest way to humanly kill a predator , but unfortunatly in most cases that is not even an option that can be taken and in the case of Coyotes most will not enter a Cage/Live trap so a Foothold Trap , Snares/Cable Restraints are the only option left.

Good point, Tim. 1800 acres and only a dozen a year?! Man, Utah must be a swarming infestation compared to Texas! You could easily do that in a few days up here!

Whoever figures out a humane, gentle way to trap coyotes (that works) is going to be a bajillionaire. Obviously a live cage trap would be fabulous if coyotes would trot into them, but that's what, one in a few thousand that would even consider it? It just sucks that the reason we want the coyotes dead is because of their intelligence, and that's what makes it harder to kill them humanely.

Maybe we're trying all the wrong things. Maybe we need computerized sharp-shooting machines that can analyze the shape of a coyote and take it out while it's happily trotting along with a single bullet... That would be cheap, right??? *lol*

Well, we aren't computerized...but that is exactly how we take our 'yotes. The dumb ones that wander into range of one of us while we are out deer or pig hunting.

None of us are smart enough to catch them in traps!


Tim

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I think someone should invent a Coyote Birth Control Pellet. We could just mix some up in raw hamburger meat and leave it out for their dinner. It would have to be something that did not bother other animals........

Probably the same person who invents a Coyote Birth Control pill will also invent that spray that I need that only kills poison ivy.........

Well at least modern footholds and trapping have come a long way. Makes me sick at my stomach thinking of what has been in the past in the name of predator control....and im the son and grandson of two old skool "wolfers". Baited hooks hanging everywhere, poisons, denning...im telling ya, it makes me physically sick thinking about it...and im a trapper!

The way my luck goes with computers, thats all i need is a computerized gun in the pasture...lmao. Getting a virus would be a lot more serious huh? As far as the birth control thing, im not sure but i "think" there was a program at one time that did render wolves or yotes sterile? Ive no clue but it seems like i read about something like that? Anyone else ever hear/read of something like that?

They aren't raping the sheep, they are eating them.

I think if they can figure out birth control for things like horses and hippos (or what it rhinos? Saw them giving shots to one of those types of animals at the zoo once) then we should certainly be able to figure out coyotes... I mean... It's a dog. We have a bajillion of them in animal testing facilities.

But I guess testing for human disease related stuff is more important than saving taxpayers all that money from the government paying out for kills...

Why wouldn't a wild hog trap (with a top) work? I've seen them on You Tube. Perhaps the animal would not realize it was a trap? The trappers set the traps up and bait them for several days without the trap being set to get the animals used to going in. The traps themselves are huge as you can imagine and very strong.

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They do that for rabies in Texas.. Set out baits with oral rabies vaccine for foxes and Coyotes... There used to be a significant problem with rabies being carried up from Mexico..

maybe they would maybe they wouldn't but whats the problem just use a proper sized foothold for the size of your local yotes with offsetjaws , they may get a slightly bruised at the paw but nothing that wont heal in a few days, but what are you going to do with a live wild yote, if you say take it to the other side of the county and release if you do that you might want to wear your body armor , your likely to have the people on the other side of the county shooting them in the cage while your trying to release them.
if you say spay/nutr and release well you have fun with that every time you catch a yote an release it they get smarter.

the way the hog trap works is you get them comming in for corn and they tip over the bucket the corn is in , after a few nights of this you tie the bucket to the brace that holds the door open and when the bucket falls the brace does too and the door closes and because it closes from the inside the harder they push the tighter it closes the door it generaly work because they are pigs they eat like pigs and they go after food like pigs

Yes , Birth Control has been tried. It didn't work then and wouldn't work now.

The problem is there is no way to know what is going to eat the bait , so the amount of bait that would have to be put out would be astronomical. As for the bounty being paid that has nothing to do with the Fed. Gov. that is done mostly on a county by county basis. In some cases it may be a State fund , but not normally.

If you think a bounty being paid is a drain on the tax payers it would be even higher to do the Birth Control thing in an amount that would have any significant amount of an effect on the population and would take years to do any good.