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Old 09/19/10, 08:33 AM
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So I was talking to a guy about this fence thing yesterday. I guess you could say I'm on the fence about which way to go. If I go High Tensile, what if I didn't want to keep electricity on it? Is it only effective if it (usually) has a charge? Will it hold animals (mainly goats right now) without a charger? I was also told that I needed the crimping tool and to crimp the ends. He said despite people saying you could "tie" it that it doesn't work very well to twist and tie it.

Could you please add some thoughts?

Thanks alot guys
You do need the crimper. I wouldn't even consider trying to tie it. If you find someone who does quite a bit of this type of fence, you can probably borrow one from them.

If you keep your spacing close and the wire tight, it will do a good job of holding goats. I would be inclinded to keep it hot though, at least on every other strand.
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Old 09/19/10, 09:36 AM
 
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Would a "regular" crimping tool work or is it a different size?
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Old 09/19/10, 09:53 AM
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If by "regular" you mean electrical crimpers, no. Tractor Supply sells the crimpers for about $30.
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Build your corners, and it's going to take at least 3 posts for each corner minumum. You have to build H's at each corner and diagonal wire them if you want to pull any type of fencing tight. Locust posts are good but I wouldn't drive them at the corners, I would dig them a minimum of 3'. It all sounds like a lot of work and overkill but you only want to fence once. I've watched my neighbors that laughed at me have to chase their animals and rebuild their fence continuously while I don't.
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You will need a good fence charger, especially for goats. The fence charger will in addition to keeping the goats contained help keep dogs and other predators out. Do not waste you funds on a cheap fence charger.
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Old 09/19/10, 01:44 PM
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"Hi Tensile " is designed to be a visible and PHYSICAL barrier

"Regular" electric fence is a visible and PSYCHOLOGICAL barrier

The regular electric wire isn't as strong, but it doesn't need to be since it's the SHOCK value that keeps animals in or out.

If you use Aluminum wire, it's easy to tie instead of crimping, and won't need nearly as much tension. I keep mine tight enough not to sag between posts, but so loose that I've had tress fall across it and simply push the wires to the ground rather than breaking them

Coils of "Hi Tensile" wire are hard to work with, whereas the Aluminum is on easy to handle spools. You DO have to be careful not to kink the Aluminum, because it will break if you do , but otherwise it's durable

If you go with "HI Tensile" , you probably will need the extra corner bracing.

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Old 09/19/10, 06:59 PM
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I was thinking it would be .5(250) x 250 for the area, not the shorter section - sorry, guess I should have searched instead of "remembering"

I thought of the woven wire but I figure that I need 2 rolls of barbed @ about $40 so $80 vs 1 roll of woven @ over $250 for just 300 or so ft. That would mean I need 3 rolls of that stuff I gotta be able to feed the goats too
Sorry, but on an area that small, you're going to be feeding the goats anyway. I've got a 'buck enclosure that encloses around two acres (with a lake being the boundary on one side). Half is timbered... other pasture... a few nigerian and other mini goats had it down to a 'golf course' with a browse line in the trees, in just a week. Since then, any goat going in there has to be fed.

If you start looking around, I think you'll find very very few people raising goats use multiple strands of barbed wire.

Of course, you gotta work with what you have...

If you saw down your corner posts in the future, just cut above the nails. Or do like someone else mentioned, put boards up against the posts where the wire is connected. I've seen several 2x's on each side of a tree tied together tight with wire, but in such a way, when the tree grew, the pressure on the 2x's would loosen the wire holding em to the tree... and the tree doesn't get damaged. Personally I just nail into the tree, unless it's a pine.

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Old 09/19/10, 08:09 PM
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to go out and buy pressure treated would cost me more than the t-post.
Agri Supply sells small treated round posts for about the same price as T-posts.

Check with your local utility company and see if they sell used power poles.

I can buy them here for less than 50 cents per foot, up to 35 ft long. Anything over that is no extra charge
I cut mine 8 ft long and put 4 ft in the ground.

The line posts dont really have any load on them so 6.5 ft X 2 = 2 1/2 inch posts are all you need, and Agri Supply has them for $2.60 each
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Ok so Ive got another question on this High Tensile fence...

One of my corners is near a power pole (the last one up our driveway that just feeds us.) Could I use that to tie off cable and then run my fencing off that? Would it be too much pressure for the power pole? Does the Power Company forbid using their pole as a fence post as long as they still can access it?
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Old 09/25/10, 08:59 AM
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Personally I would never use someone elses pole for my fence whether it was the power company or your neighbors. If they decide to do something with the pole they can loosen your fence and then your critters can escape. Bad form in my opinion to let someone else have that much control. JMHO
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Old 09/25/10, 04:22 PM
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Realize... whatever type (barbed wire/woven fence/high tensile) of tight wire enclosure you use, the biggest key is the corners!

Put them in solid, and buy good wire and pull them tight enough to play a tune on! Corners in different soil types demand different things. But you can make one that will stay put in sand, or on top of a rock!

Without good corners, it's all gonna be a mess in a few years.
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