Allis Chalmers All Crop

AC self propelled AC 40 photo: http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t...almers40SP.jpg and http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t...s40SPview2.jpg

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The rubber? coating on the canvis rollers is about gone. Wish I knew what I could do to reline it, as it stops up more easily without alot of friction on those rollers

Thats the closest Ive ever been to see a 40. Didnt know they had a G engine on them, but I guess it would be enough, But I wonder what the other engine was for. One for the traction, and one for the combine operation?

Could you use Plasti Dip paint? http://www.plastidip.com/ It is the compound that you dip tool handles into for added grip and cushion. Feels a little like rubber or soft plastic pliable plastic.

I don't think the McCormick-Deering binder had anything on the wooden rollers that moved the canvases.

What about getting small tire inner tube and stretching portions of it over the rollers? Think small tires like wheelbarrow innner tubes and tires.

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I Imagine the wood rollers were naturally more abrasive than smooth steel rollers. Ill look up what uve got on that plastigrip. That would be a big encouragement in useing it again. It stopped up a buncha times on milo, as the stalks and heads were so big/thick, and I couldnt get it to cut higher than around a foot below the head.

You have two SP100's?

WOW!!!!!

Where did you get them? How long have you owned them? Do you use them?

FWIW, I think the All Crops...especially the SP100 will grow tremendously in value over the years. Those are already as rare as hen's teeth!

As you probably already know, you can buy new drapers with the rubber coating, but they are expensive!

About $600 for a set, IIRC. At that price, I'd be inclined to install them and then remove them again, so I could store them in my house, and then reinstall when I needed them! LOL!

In all seriousness, in the spirit of my first post, new drapers...for the serious minded person with the right business plan and farm plan...$600 wouldn't be too bad if it got an AC up and running properly....of course, if it made business sense to do so.

clovis
Fescue seed sell at 50 cents plus per lb cleaned. I get 20 cents per lb uncleaned. It does not take long to harvest the seed and I am taking them from grass that I did not need to graze but would rotary clip anyway. I am saving 50 cents per lb on the seed that I use. Some years I harvest a few thousand lbs of seed. Yes, it would be justifiable to buy new drapers if I needed them. One of the big advantages of a pull type combine is that you do not have to maintain a second engine and in most cases the tractor is kept in decent running condition.

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If they can do it,
you know you can!

I bought one locally and a few years later I bought one from Sarnia, ON. Haven't used either in a few years. They do a fine job, one has a Scour Clean attachment that re-cleans the seeds and bags the weeds. Lots of grease zerks. Lots of extra screens for different seeds. No power steering, rear wheels turn, makes it interesting to drive.

A neighbor has a AC 60 without a grain bin, just a bagging platform, so you bag the grain as you go. Even has a slide to off load the bags.

Corn picker attachments are very rare and I believe that self propelled AC 40 is not a factory built unit. Fun to look at.

If u got an big tractor, u dont need an engine, BUT I sure wish I had one on my combine as I have on my bailer. If I had my F-30 back, or a G JD, I wouldnt worry about it too much, but with my CC and especially my H Farmall Its a haul. DOING MILO, in dry ground with wet spots.

Good thread Clovis; brought back a lot of memories! Having grown up on a farm, we had a AC 60 with it's own engine on board. Using a handcrank, that engine generally started on the first pull. I'm not sure what year it was manufactured, or when my grandfather bought it, but that little combine was dependable was used until the summer of 1980. We sold out later that year and the AC 60 was sold at auction. I look back now and think how much equipment we had let go, wishing now we never had sold and parted with much of it.

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"Be ye strong therefore, and let not your hands be weak: for your work shall be rewarded" (2 Chronicles 15:7)

It has been a very informative thread, and one that I've enjoyed immensely, if nothing else.

I'd love it if someone stored this information away in their mind for the future. Maybe someone out there will say to themselves "There is a way to make this farming/specialty crop work, I'll look into an old harvester like an All Crop."

Id like to know. Were the canvis straps leather like on a binder, or something else. I think before I use mine again, Ill have leather straps put on the canvis I had made at a canvis store

One more thing for dh to lust after. I need more land first, it's still too big for my 1/2 acre of crops.

I was thinking the same thing. Lots of memories!

I recently bought an original All Crop 90 manual, and received it today.

Just for kicks, and anyone wondering about an All Crop:

This machine will harvest 81 types of grain. Many of these grains are similar, ie., lima beans and black eye beans, but nonetheless, the machine is impressive.

Here are a few of the grains this machine will harvest:

Alfalfa
Barley
Beans, 18 varieties are listed, pinto, navy, Italian, great northern, soy, etc.
Buckwheat
Clover, 12 varieties
Fescue
Flax
Fuzzy...(What on earth is that?)
Grass, 19 varieties
Hegari...(If you know what Fuzzy is, you probably know what this is too, LOL)
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Lespedeza
Millet
Mustard
Oats
Peas, 6 varieties listed
Rape
Rye
Red-Top
Sorgo
Sunflower
Timothy
Vetch
Wheat

I've omitted a few grains from the list. Some of the grains require a pick up attachment for the AC 90 to properly harvest these grains.

Once again, thank you for a wonderful thread...I've enjoyed this very much.

Hegari is a sorghum type, similar to grain sorghum. Makes heads of very white berries. Was harvested with a row binder or in later years baled for hay when the grain was just past the milk stage. High sugar content in the stalk.

What do they do with the grain?

The grain, if harvested as such most times was used for seed to plant the next years crop. Some was fed to hogs, chickens, and the milk cow/s. Or, in some instances, some of the grain was hand thrashed from the shocks of Hegari solely for seed.

When I first came to Okla, I heard often, I guess cause people found out I was a farmer of a grain called hi gear. It took me years to find out that hi gear was hegari