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Old 08/24/10, 12:52 PM
 
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Yup, Thats what IM saying, BUT thats MY own openion. Ive worked for a wage for 43yrs, And that was, except for my first and last jobs hard physical work. Way I see it, is if I can do it, Anybody can, And Im sure not going to demean myself by grouping me with the bosses I worked for as to their doing hard work

AND, when I came home, I still had the farm chores to do, along with getting crops put in and back out. I look at my kids. My boy is a boss and dosent do much unless it has to do with setting at a desk, or running a little locomotive. He lives in a small town, and when he gets home, hes asleep, as he works 3rd shift. Daughter works part time as a home nurse. Her place is around 85ft by 185ft. She has a doz or so chickens, had that many rabbits, but they all died on her. Shes got one left. I said , well since you dont seem to be doing any good with them, why dont you sell it. She said she was waiting for it to die on her. Her garden, with 3 kids, is around 30ft sq. I dont call either of them hard workers.

A combat soldier, one whos seen combat to where he has fired straight at an enemy, and been likewise shot at, looks down on anybody else in the service, and hes got the right to. Hes earned it. It dosent matter if those looked down are support troops in planes, manning artillery, or lower down, cooks, and drivers, ect. There just not in the same cataglory as those who are regulary dying, or being wounded, and comeing home either in a bag, or with parts missing, and messed up in the head forever.

There are those in here who farm hundreds of acres, or more. There farming. Theyve got several fortunes in machinery vehicles livestock, ect. Ive got a full line too of machinery in order to farm, And to me it represents a small fortune, and a lifetime of procuring, BUT to those really farming in the hundreds, what im doing on my 20, is nothing. Penny antie

So by those examples, Thats how I define work, and those who do it, against those who dont.
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Old 08/24/10, 07:27 PM
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Hi all, we are new to country life and don;t have chickens yet. We took over hubby's great aunts place in June out here I guess you have to credit hard work it is one thing to see a pile of papers that are finished, it is another thing to see all the weeds pulled up from under the fence. It is all a day's work either way, I have done both now and I think the weeds gave me the most satisfaction!!
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There are always exceptions, but FarmBoyBill is right. I think it is safe to say that in general, in our country, people are getting lazier and doing less physical work. Maybe he should have included everyone, not just city people.

I believe around 1900, 50% of the population was involved in agriculture, and now it is less than a percent or two.

The obvious goal of our society is to eliminate as much physical labor as possible. Many farmers do little physically in their air-conditioned cabs, GPS directed.
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Old 08/24/10, 07:38 PM
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AND, when I came home, I still had the farm chores to do, along with getting crops put in and back out. I look at my kids. My boy is a boss and dosent do much unless it has to do with setting at a desk, or running a little locomotive. He lives in a small town, and when he gets home, hes asleep, as he works 3rd shift. Daughter works part time as a home nurse. Her place is around 85ft by 185ft. She has a doz or so chickens, had that many rabbits, but they all died on her. Shes got one left. I said , well since you dont seem to be doing any good with them, why dont you sell it. She said she was waiting for it to die on her. Her garden, with 3 kids, is around 30ft sq. I dont call either of them hard workers.

A combat soldier, one whos seen combat to where he has fired straight at an enemy, and been likewise shot at, looks down on anybody else in the service, and hes got the right to.
And your kids still TALK to you??? Ive never heard of a combat soldier looking down on anyone else in the service either.

Im a nurse and I can tell you , a home nurse does a LOT OF HARD WORK. And no KIDDING when someone gets home from third shift, they are asleep, when the heck do you think they are supposed to sleep??? Working third shift screws up your whole metabolism, Ive worked it for nearly 4 years now. And I WORK HARD. Good god almighty
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Old 08/24/10, 07:43 PM
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I think it is safe to say that in general, in our country, people are getting lazier and doing less physical work.
doing less physical work does not automatically mean lazier.
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Old 08/24/10, 09:08 PM
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Doesnt make sense for me to buy and care for birds when my amish neighbor sells free range eggs for 1.25/dz.
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Old 08/25/10, 12:04 AM
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My city council recently voted down a request to allow chickens within the city. I don't blame them! Some other nearby cities allow up to 4 or 6 but must be only hens. As one of our alderman stated, people living in the city expect to be away from such things. I have very understanding neighbors who mostly have farming background or I would not get away with what I have. I've got pigeons. Two of us were grandfathered years ago when raising pigeons was forbidden. Since I have had them here since 1963, it was difficult to order me to get rid of them. (The other lived in an area annexed to the city.) So why did I not blame the council for nixing chickens? I know what both wet chicken and pigeon manure smell like and I wouldn't want either next door to me if I weren't the owner!

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Old 08/25/10, 06:18 AM
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Shygal, I have run into a few combat troops at the VA that think their service to the country is more valuable because they are frontline troops than those of us in support MOS's. I have not heard any of them complain about a support troop when they were bleeding out and needed a medi-vac ot a Doc.
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Old 08/25/10, 08:02 AM
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There are people who live in the city because it is the only thing they can afford. Some want a few chickens so they can be more self sufficient. I don't blame them, especially since I recently had the good fortune to move from a subdivision to a rural property zoned ag. This was the first time that my husband and I could afford to make this move...and it is due to the real estate collapse. We were blessed that we could sell our home in the suburbs and make this move.

On our half acre+ lot we had fruit trees and as much garden as we could. I left my day job to home school my son and raise as much of our food as possible. I kept rabbits for meat and 'flew under the radar' with that little operation. I was busy all the time, canning, freezing, butchering, cooking and gardening.... I don't call that lazy.

I also found time to learn to spell correctly and learn correct grammar. I don't find fault with others who do not take time to do that, however.
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Old 08/25/10, 08:58 AM
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Shygal, I have run into a few combat troops at the VA that think their service to the country is more valuable because they are frontline troops than those of us in support MOS's. I have not heard any of them complain about a support troop when they were bleeding out and needed a medi-vac ot a Doc.

Kinda makes me feel like my service was a waste of time. I wish I had known how the real men felt, I wouldn't have bothered. This is one of those times when I'm biting my toungue so hard it's bleeding.

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Old 08/25/10, 09:01 AM
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There are people who live in the city because it is the only thing they can afford. Some want a few chickens so they can be more self sufficient. I don't blame them, especially since I recently had the good fortune to move from a subdivision to a rural property zoned ag. This was the first time that my husband and I could afford to make this move...and it is due to the real estate collapse. We were blessed that we could sell our home in the suburbs and make this move.

On our half acre+ lot we had fruit trees and as much garden as we could. I left my day job to home school my son and raise as much of our food as possible. I kept rabbits for meat and 'flew under the radar' with that little operation. I was busy all the time, canning, freezing, butchering, cooking and gardening.... I don't call that lazy.

I also found time to learn to spell correctly and learn correct grammar. I don't find fault with others who do not take time to do that, however.
Well said. I would kill for a country place, but so far I haven't been able to make it happen. I can't have any chickens here nor a garden, so I just sit on my rosy red butt and do nothing. Guess I fit the profile.

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Old 08/25/10, 09:29 AM
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I'm sorry, FarmBoyBill, but I respectfully disagree with you whole-heartedly. As I said in an earlier post, the world needs people in ALL professions, not just ones that require physical labor.

What about the computer programmers and software designers who created the internet and all of websites like these that enable people from all over the world to share information? (without them we wouldn't even be having this discussion) What about the people who work in doctor's offices, bank offices, the library or the cashiers who ring up your groceries? Those people work no less hard... they work DIFFERENTLY. The world needs all of them to make everything we do FUNCTION.

I understand that there are lazy people everywhere, but just because one person chooses a profession that does not require hard, physical labor does NOT mean that they don't work hard.

I have no illusions about changing your mind; however, I would hope that you can take a moment to look at the other side of things.
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Old 08/25/10, 01:02 PM
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There are people who live in the city because it is the only thing they can afford. Some want a few chickens so they can be more self sufficient. I don't blame them, especially since I recently had the good fortune to move from a subdivision to a rural property zoned ag. This was the first time that my husband and I could afford to make this move...and it is due to the real estate collapse. We were blessed that we could sell our home in the suburbs and make this move.

On our half acre+ lot we had fruit trees and as much garden as we could. I left my day job to home school my son and raise as much of our food as possible. I kept rabbits for meat and 'flew under the radar' with that little operation. I was busy all the time, canning, freezing, butchering, cooking and gardening.... I don't call that lazy.

I also found time to learn to spell correctly and learn correct grammar. I don't find fault with others who do not take time to do that, however.
Took the words right outta' my mouth.

Some people are born into the farming life. Then there are others who are born in the big city and have to work with what they have. If I could I would drop everything to start a life and career in the countryside but its just not plausible. So, I have to get a degree with something that will make me money here in the city. Does this make me a lazy person or fat? Nope.. I am working to survive under the circumstances and cards I have been dealt. Just because you farm food doesn't make you better than me.

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This "city folk" crap is getting old.
There is a beautiful little acreage out in the country that I'd love to get my hands on, but the welfare family living in the middle of piles of scrap and manure are living their dream on it.

Haven't seen them work much, spend most of their time ducking creditors and stinking up the local coffee shop, since in their minds, "country folk" don't need to bathe.

My "city folk" brother-in-law was recently invited to help split and stack our sister-in-law's firewood. He worked us into the ground ! I guess while we were working our manual labor jobs, he was getting his master's degree and then running an office full of other "lazy city folk".
When he gets off work, he bicycles 20 or so miles and then heads to the gym.

I'd love to have a few chickens. Town regs. say I can't. I'll see my dream lifestyle someday.

Here's another thing I'd like to comment on. What is with all the "yur" for your, and "hifaluting city folk out ther thinkin thur bettern us".

News flash Cooter... typing like that doesn't make you sound colorful, it makes you sound stupid !

No one was specifically flamed and not one curse word in this post. Ban me anyway if you want. I come to this forum for information about my future way of life, if I wanted HEE HAW, I'll turn on the RFDTV channel.

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At my last house I was living in a very rural area, and was surprised at how many people would rather buy eggs than own chickens... I sold mine for $3/doz, or $4/18-pk. I had one customer decide eggs cost too much and she went and bought her own chickens. She bought them as started pullets. By 8 months old they still weren't laying and she came to me grumbling about all the money she'd wasted on feed... Soon after she sold them and came back to me for eggs. *lol* I too could not keep up with the demand. And I had about 250 chickens (only a few roos in the bunch).

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Seems to me that some city folks are very sensitive and have no sense of humor...must be from wearing all that polyesther!

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There is a beautiful little acreage out in the country that I'd love to get my hands on, but the welfare family living in the middle of piles of scrap and manure are living their dream on it.

Haven't seen them work much, spend most of their time ducking creditors and stinking up the local coffee shop, since in their minds, "country folk" don't need to bathe.
Most of us are like that in the country...we just sit around dirty waiting for some city slicker to show interest in our property then we just mess with them.

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No one was specifically flamed and not one curse word in this post. Ban me anyway if you want. I come to this forum for information about my future way of life, if I wanted HEE HAW, I'll turn on the RFDTV channel.
Maybe your future doesnt involve living in the countryside around the type of people you seem to not understand or like very much.

Each person realizes their dreams according to how their life takes them and most of us have lived in the city, suburbia, and country at various times in our life so getting all up in arms over a simple thread like this is just silly. Apparently some of you judge your self worth over what someone in the country would call you for living in the city or over what some combat arms Soldiers think of your service as an admin clerk. This is a homesteading forum and people are at various stages by choice or circumstances...so what. If you dont like what I am doing on my homestead I couldnt care less but I am glad to have the resources provided by this site.
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Old 08/25/10, 11:56 PM
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speaking only for myself, I LOVE to take a shower after working outside all day. my God! I'm not country because I like to be CLEAN!!! geeze, wish someone would have told me... now I feel so... dirty, for being clean. guess I need another shower. LOL!
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Old 08/26/10, 01:50 AM
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This "city folk" crap is getting old.
There is a beautiful little acreage out in the country that I'd love to get my hands on, but the welfare family living in the middle of piles of scrap and manure are living their dream on it.

Haven't seen them work much, spend most of their time ducking creditors and stinking up the local coffee shop, since in their minds, "country folk" don't need to bathe.

My "city folk" brother-in-law was recently invited to help split and stack our sister-in-law's firewood. He worked us into the ground ! I guess while we were working our manual labor jobs, he was getting his master's degree and then running an office full of other "lazy city folk".
When he gets off work, he bicycles 20 or so miles and then heads to the gym.

I'd love to have a few chickens. Town regs. say I can't. I'll see my dream lifestyle someday.

Here's another thing I'd like to comment on. What is with all the "yur" for your, and "hifaluting city folk out ther thinkin thur bettern us".

News flash Cooter... typing like that doesn't make you sound colorful, it makes you sound stupid !

No one was specifically flamed and not one curse word in this post. Ban me anyway if you want. I come to this forum for information about my future way of life, if I wanted HEE HAW, I'll turn on the RFDTV channel.
sensitive much?

I'll point something out that may not of occurred to ya sully, you can choose not to read something and just the same should you read something that disagrees with you, you can ignore it!

ya all come back now ya here!

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Old 08/26/10, 02:49 AM
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sensitive much?

I'll point something out that may not of occurred to ya sully, you can choose not to read something and just the same should you read something that disagrees with you, you can ignore it!

ya all come back now ya here!
then why didnt you ignore their post?
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