My stuff has been plagiarized. Again. I need a better strategy

I think you are correct in looking for a different way of wording your request as the answer to at least some of the conflicts.

I have a knack for p****ing people off sometimes when my intention is nowhere close to that.

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I can always get them (or their host) to take it down. The problem is that I want to find a path that is not hostile.

When they take it down there are two major artifacts:

1) they used to like my stuff and now they no longer like my stuff.

2) my stuff is on the internet less than it was before.

What I would like is to end up with different artifacts:

A) they like me and my stuff

B) they change the offending page so that it says "we like this!" and it has a prominent link to my stuff

C) they like me and my stuff so much that they make more (proper) links to my stuff

So I'm looking for a smart-smooth way to contact them so I end up with A, B and C rather than 1 and 2.

Granted, fancy words are not gonna make any difference with some folks. But I would at least like to try a new approach - maybe 70% will go for it. If 70% go for it, that would be a lot less headache for me, plus it ends up with more links to my stuff.

Lemonade.

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first I would post all articles as a Image,with a little hidden encodeing for identification such as date of release and your copy right info.
second I would ensure the page has as many safe gaurds as possiable. there are various
things that can be done but Im not a web site coder so I cant give specifics but I know there is securety thats top notch for web pages.
third is a good disclaimer and I would make it the first page anyone sees.

"All work on this site is protected by Copy right and property of the respective owners.
All works owned by Paul Wheaton may be linked to but not reproduced in any other way.
Any works that are not property of Paul Wheaton are used on this site with permission from the repective owners and any use of these by another party should also gain permission prior to use.
All persons reproducing, redistributing, or making commercial use of this information are expected to adhere to the terms and conditions asserted by the copyright holder. Transmission or reproduction of protected items beyond that allowed by fair use as defined in the copyright laws requires the written permission of the copyright owners.
if you like Paul Wheaton's work and wish to use it in any other way besides linking or referencing, please contact him.
Paul Wheaton will and does pursue copyright infringement to the fullest extent provided by law. "

you may want to make a page for easy link,provides the html code for copy paste something that would basicly make the refering
web page a frame and redirect to your page?

Here is a quick draft of what I'm thinking of
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Hi!

I was surfing the net today and came across your article at _______ and thought it was really good. And then I noticed it sounded really familiar. It took me a moment to figure out that it is a copy of my own article!

I'm really glad you like my stuff. I hope we can figure stuff out so that we can both be happy campers.

My biggest hope is that since you like my stuff so much, that you might make links to more of my articles. I have an article on diatomaceous earth I would really like to get more links to.

I'm sure you are trying to fill your site out a bit, and I think I can be of help with that. The trick is that having more than one copy of article makes google mad. Google thinks we are trying to trick them, so they penalize all copies. An odd thing is that if you have a couple of paragraphs on _________ and you then link to a page about _________ then google likes that a lot.

So if it is something you are okay with, I would like to come up with a strategy that is mutually beneficial. Maybe I could write a few paragraphs for your site and that would include a link to my original article. Then we could erase the penalties from google and actually add something good to both sites.

And then we can, if you are comfortable with it, talk about some of my other articles?

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How does that sound? Too much? Should I make it shorter?

I do think it needs some polish. Some parts come off a bit klunky - I need better phrasing.

And, of course, if the party on the other side turns out to be icky, then I can contact their host with some scary legal stuff.

In the internet world, playing nice with pirates doesn't work. Taking "their" all their ill gained pirate booty from them will make them think twice, next time, after you've taken all of their worldly assets.

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sorry that they stole your stuff, but posting their site and yours side by side links was helpful..people at least will see what is going on and know how to take action themselves on whether or not to trust people who continue to do this

I think that sounds really good! Only an icky person would take it the wrong way or get defensive about it. I think it's really nice of you to offer your talents to their website. It's a win/win situation

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Another option is to look at it from the person's side that would like to use some of your material, a paragraph, the entire article, for personal use, for use to earn money (for a fee), in a business setting (print or internet).

A few years ago, I was writing a website for a company (1) trying to make money-business. They found an article by another large business company (2) supporting the need for company 1's type of business. They wanted to publish company 2's research and article. There were clear notices on company 2's website/article that it was copyrighted, but, no instruction on how to request permission except for a mailing address.

My manager didn't think it was worth it to publish it with permission, I think he was just too lazy and didn't have the tools to request permission. He just wanted to use it without permission.

If there had been clear instructions on how to do this, THAT would have helped. So, I researched some examples of 'requesting permissions for copyrighted material' on the internet and came up with lots of information I'd have to tailor to this circumstance.
Here's an example:
http://library.csus.edu/content2.asp?pageid=343

Ideally, you'd need an email address for permissions, like paul.w.permissions@whatever.whereever--for non money making type request. A page explaining the difference between non money making use of your material and money making use of your material--by their website or printed material...hobby use or business use. Business use--I'd give a mailing address. You may have to define hobby vs business use as making <$300 per year and >$300 per year for that website or publication--use your own judgement.

Then web pages for each, not unlike the link I provided above--and on the business use one, you may like to list your fees, per paragraph, per article, and for what time period you give them permission. You might want to add that if they use it without permission you will, or reserve the right to, pursue any and all money they make on their website while using your material without your permission.

Those requests that they need to fill out should be very specific on what they will use, what credits they will give, links to your site if you want, names, addresses, signatures, dates of both parties. You'll need to keep a file of them.

In my situation, I mailed off the request I tailored on how and what I'd be using on this website, and I would post their link, and within 2 weeks I had a signed dated document of permission and gave them a copy of the request for their records too. It was a success, but it took a lot of research to get it done. Everyone was pleased with the end result.

So I'm just saying that giving them the tools to use your material in an appropriate manner might be all some of them need to do it correctly and not infringe on your copyright. I hope that helps, from a different point of view.

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It's pretty good, but you still need something shorter to put with all your original writings. Don't forget to include the date you wrote them.

Was he able to prove his work was the original? I hope so.

Stealing other peoples work ticks me off big time.

I might seem odd asking this but....why do you care if this is happening?

Isn't the point of your writings to help other people?If it helps someone else but they don't know you wrote it what are you really losing?

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The good news is, this post has generated a lot of traffic to your website!

Try www.komando.com

She's got a Saturday radio talk show on computers and always has great information. I bet she has your answer in her on-line archives.

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