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Old 07/29/10, 09:10 AM
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I don't know much about that. Isn't it currently just in Boulder?
I can't remember where it is. I had looked into it to see if I could get a permit but I didn't qualify so I just forgot about it. All I remember is that it was sort of a test to see if rain barrels caused any problems.

Just seems so silly. All it really does is divert the water temporarily. Still ends up in the water table. I would think that would be easy to prove without a rain barrel test. But what do I know?
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I believe the roof top collection, if I've been told right, was not so much because a homeowner's rain barrel collection would be a problem, but again to put the law in place to handle cities.

If a city (think large area) decrees all roof top run off, driveway run off, road and street and sidewalk (anything paved) run off is diverted they can indeed have a major effect on a water way.

We cannot dam up the water coming off our roof or coming from the mountain across the street. We can divert its flow only to protect buildings. Turned out it was washing out one corner of our foundation (legit diagnosis of a settling problem). So we divert it through our garden and let it go its merry way, quite legally

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Old 07/31/10, 06:12 AM
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If you collect the water off the roof, use it to drink, wash yourself and your clothes, water your crops and flush the residue through your septic system, how much of what you collected actually misses getting back to the land? You might actually return more if you buy liquids from the store.

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Old 07/31/10, 01:08 PM
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little off topic but maybe connected in a way.

there are not only water rights but mineral,easements etc.

my question and me and a freind had a discusion on this the other day, if some one owns rights to your property should they not be paying property tax or a portion of it?

seems the property owner has to pay it, so anything that is connected to or has something to do with said property should be included in the taxation of such.

and of course if its removed and profit made should also be income tax.

and what happens when you are makeing use of your surface and they want to come in and make use of their rights and it interferes with yours.

seems a very tangled web to me.

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I believe that in a few places the county officials are demanding a "Water Meter" be put on your OWN PRIVATE WELL. So collecting rain water being illegal does not seem such a stretch after all.

yup theres a city not far from me doing this, and many it is illegal to put a well in. and even more if they run a city water pipe line or sewer close enough you are bound by law to hook up.
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Old 08/02/10, 11:44 AM
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A friend told me over the weekend that he recently read that rain barrels are okay now in Colorado? He has recruited my son to help him set up a couple. I haven't seen any such thing but that doesn't mean much. Anyone else know? (Of course, since it has rained maybe twice all year, he isn't likely to get much.)

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Here in the Hill Country of Texas, I get a tax exemption equal to the cost of installing the rainwater collection system. My system has 28,000 gal of storage in it. I catch rain off of every roof I own. I am limited to 25,000 gallons per day from my well.

I understand from a friend in Trinidad, Co that its illegal to utilize gray water to water gardens. The state owns the gray water. Even if he BUYS WATER, he can only use it once - after that it belongs to the state. I guess the state owns his pee too.

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Old 08/02/10, 03:41 PM
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As the demand for water increases and the supply decreases these rules will pop up in more and more places. I believe that the gray water issue is more about a lack of control for health risks.

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No health risks with gray water. He can't even use it to water flowers.

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Does anyone know which states it's illegal to collect rainwater?

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And have all of you filed for your air (breathing) permits yet? It is free (for now) and available online. Smaller folks can file the short form.

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I'm thinking that if there are laws involved the government must think that the rain belongs to them. Here, the game commission takes the position that all game animals belong to them. Same sort of situation, I imagine.
Then they like me should provide pasture or pay those they steal from.
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Be assured, i tis about large money interests. They seem to have forgotten about the One who created it, and ALL of Creation belongs to Him.

In New Mexico, there is no such prohibition against collecting rainwater. Until it hits the ground, you can capture it. Surface & groundwater OTOH, are under the purview of the State Water Engineer.

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Well I'll tell you something - if I live in a place that wouldn't allow me to collect rain water because of a law - that's one law I ain't keeping - I wouldn't break the law - I just won't keep it -

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Does anyone know which states it's illegal to collect rainwater?
In Wyoming they are generally considered legal but, by the letter of the law there is no exception for rain barrels so they fall under the same laws as any surface water diversion and storage. No one is willing to try and inforce the law against them.

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States with rain water collection laws:

http://www.ncsl.org/issues-research/...arvesting.aspx

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In Washington they can choose to shut you down but usually they don't care. The law is to give them something they can use if you are impacting others by collecting.

Right or wrong that is the direction many areas are going as aquifers and other water resources are being drained from over use.
That may be true in western WA, in eastern WA you don't fool with water rights unless you want to be involved in a lawsuit, not from the state but the person who's water you are using. They are taken very seriously in rural areas here.
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States with rain water collection laws:

http://www.ncsl.org/issues-research/...arvesting.aspx

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yup theres a city not far from me doing this, and many it is illegal to put a well in. and even more if they run a city water pipe line or sewer close enough you are bound by law to hook up.
I was quite surprised to learn that in my county, here in rural southern Kentucky, it's quite illegal to have a water well put in. Also, we now have a Storm Water Management dept with a salaried guru to run things. Costs us $4 a month on our rural water bill with no way to opt out. Doesn't sound like much, but without that $4 my bill would only be $11/month, so it'a actually a very significant portion of my bill.
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