Opinion on new law re: pets

tab · #41 07/14/10, 08:22 AM

Kris, I was thinking along the very same lines, define farm. What may be so today may change in six months. The infringement of "personal space" ususally is done in small increments.

ChristyACB · #42 07/14/10, 09:42 AM

That is the craziest thing ever! So a person who has a dog and a cat and a hamster is at the limit? Insanity thy name is government!

tailwagging · #43 07/19/10, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Lyra

I think it is a great ordinance. Cuts down on bad breeders and puppy mills.

No, it will just reduce the gene pool available to good breeders.

In order to breed for the betterment, you need to be able to breed with the best pair for each other, in order to stack the odds of the offspring being better the the parents. then, to know truly if you are doing this, you need to know your bloodline in and out. To do this, is to watch the offspring grow. best way is to keep and grow up. This gives everyday hands on.

by reducing the good breeders available gene pool it leaves them with less knowledge of their line and much less of a chance to get it right.

It will also up the prices of pets, encouraging people "out for just money" to try their hand at it. There will be a market for these pups since the good breeder is breeding so little due to following the law. With so many
"money breeders" and so few good breeders, it will pull down the quality of the breed overall.

It could reduce clients at the vets offices, making vet care price go up or vets close and move.

A Bad breeder, no matter what the numbers will be ,will be a bad breeder, law or not.

JanS · #44 07/19/10, 10:30 AM

This would aggravate the heck out of me because we have five cats - down from six - but all are fixed. If they are really only trying to stop puppy mills, homes that keep pets NOT for breeding, and can prove it, shouldn't need a special license.

ronbre · #45 07/19/10, 11:25 AM

i believe if you have papers that your animals are spayed or neutered you have a good defense against that law..how can they say you are breeding for profit when you can't breed?

edcopp · #46 07/19/10, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by orangehen

Tell me what you think of this new law regarding dogs/cats......

"The zoning ordinance states that a non-farm residence in the county with more than three dogs, cats, or domestic animals constitutes a kennel and must be zoned that way, Groves said. It also defines a kennel as a residence where more than two such animals are kept, maintained, or bred for profit, he said. Meanwhile, the animal control ordinance defines a kennel as a residence with more than six dogs, Groves said."...............

"Kennel Rules
There are no punishments in the ordinance for people who violate the kennel requirement, Groves said. However, if zoning officials discover you have more than three domestic animals in your home, they will notify you that you need to apply for a special use permit to operate a kennel, he said.
The public hearing required for this permit costs the person applying $450, Groves said. Also, neighbors who oppose the resident’s efforts to obtain a permit are given a chance to speak at the hearing.
If the permit request is turned down by the County Zoning Board of Appeals and ultimately the full County Board, the resident would be required to reduce their number of animals to conform with the zoning rules, Groves said."

http://www.journalstandard.com/news/...trol-ordinance

Talk about "Big Brother" watching!

Makes me wonder how "Zoning Officials" could "Discover" something in a private home, on private property. This would likely be a place where they would be unwelcome.

ChristieAcres · #47 07/19/10, 12:59 PM

I would be against such an ordinance. We have one dog and will not get another until he is near the end of his life. This is our right to choose. If I wanted more, it isn't any one else's right to infringe on my choice, especially if I am caring for them properly.

Our dog, Sam, stays on our property (not fenced) and is a great watchdog. We discourage barking unless it is warranted (i.e. stranger comes down our driveway). Sam is clearly told "it is okay." Which is his signal to stop barking. We have one neighbor who is within earshot and I consider it violating their rights to peace/quiet if I let my dog bark all the time. Fortunately, Sam only barks when there is a reason to. We have received zero complaints.

Now, my point- It doesn't matter if you have 1, 2, 3 or more dogs, if you care for them properly. I feel that is your personal right, however, if you live close to me, I also expect your choices won't over-ride my rights to some peace/quiet on my own property. I also won't tolerate most dogs from neighboring properties on our property. We have chickens & rabbits. There was a dog I could hear barking incessantly, all hours of the day/night. She had a very loud bark that woke me up constantly. This was just one dog... The owner rented a 5 acre property that wasn't even bordering ours, but still fairly close. I was sure glad when this gal moved and took that dog with her. Our newest neighbor, bordering our property, nicest folks, have one 90# St Bernard/Lab Mix Puppy. She comes down occasionally to play with Sam (he is neutered). Her owner retrieves her without being called whenever this happens. They are trying to train her to stay on their property (5 acres). Sadly, a vicious smaller dog, about 40#s, was allowed to run loose, even when seen trying to bite my DH, good thing the dog backed off (while he was getting our mail from the box...). This one dog killed 18 chickens a few months back, and there was a picture snapped (by chicken owners) of that dog with a dead chicken in his mouth, with him covered with blood. The dog owners were asked to pay almost $300, which they did, to replace the chickens. Now, that same dog, is kept restrained. This is only 1 dog...

lamoncha lover · #48 07/19/10, 01:43 PM

soo this law doesn't affect those in ag areas? Like most of the puppy mils are in residential non farm areas? pleaaaze

**highlands** · #49 07/19/10, 04:00 PM

In Vermont there are more dogs than people. I once read that the average family has five dogs in Vermont. We have five to 13 at any time. They have jobs to do. I register them all so they can vote at town meeting.

Kazahleenah · #50 07/19/10, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ||Downhome||

so IMO its just the officials looking for more income and screw what really goes on as long as they have their purse of silver.

Tou`che!!! That's excatly what it is. They want more and more money for things that they should have already been enforcing. (ie: puppy mills, dogs running at large etc) There are already laws pertaining to those, we do not need more laws! If they think I will pay $450.00 (or whatever it is now a days in my state) for absolutly nothing but the so called "right" to use my property as I see fit.... think again.

Kaza

sunshinytraci · #51 07/19/10, 08:38 PM

There are probably already laws covering abuse and neglect of pets. Why not just enforce those? Putting a limit on the number of animals means nothing. One person may neglect his or her one dog while another may take fantastic care of his or her 10 dogs.

They just want people to buy a kennel license and it will also have the added benefit of giving nosy, crabby people another thing to call the authorities on their neighbors for.

jill.costello · #52 07/20/10, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by yankeeterrier

WI law covers how many puppies you sell a year. I have 12 dogs and a $35 kennel license, just like I have had for the past 15 years. I have never come anywhere near to breeding the number of puppies required for a permit. (I show AMStaffs and have bred perhaps one litter a year in the past and none for the last 4 years)It will do NOTHING regarding puppy mills, they will just pay for the permit and continue to churn them out. Gerald Schultz still has his ad in the paper every week.

Oh Mi Gosh, is that son-of-a-female-dog still alive?? He not only puppy-mills the most crippled, neglected dogs ever, but he hides starving horses in the bottom of his concrete barn!

I am 35 years old, and I swear one of my worst memories was visiting his farm when I was 13 or 14! My parent's were talking "business" with him, and I was wandering around like most pre-teen girls on a horse farm. I "found" the starving horses hidden in bottom of an old dairy barn. When I asked about them, The Wife snarled at me and said, "never you mind about those!"....<shudder>. I tried to tell my parents, but they wouldn't believe me.

sorry for the segway, but what a horrid name attached to a horrid memory!