Breakfast woes

Sparticle · #41 07/08/10, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Ernie

Can you name a few?

You can make do without meat in your diet. Many do and have. The problem is that nothing, and I mean nothing, has the CONCENTRATED protein of meat. Meat takes far less calories to produce and takes longer to digest so that you feel full for longer.

You can substitute eggs and milk in your diet and get as much protein and carbs as you could from meat. Beans can be very effective as a protein substitute. However you've got to consume twice as much of those foods to keep up with the nutrients you get from half as much meat, and you've already stated that you're bored with everything you know how to cook.

I like fish for breakfast. Smoked kipper is one of my favorite meals. Eggs with sardines is absolute heaven. No salad is complete without salted anchovies.

You just can't really keep up without huge doses of protein consumed frequently throughout the day. There's a reason why when you look at human history, primarily grain and plant consuming civilizations have been conquered by more robust herding/hunting civilizations.

If you are physically small and your workload is light then hey, eat whatever you want. Flit from flower to flower and sip nectar if it suits your purposes. But if you're not happy with your breakfast choices already, you may want to step outside of the vegetarian ideology and scientifically look at some possible reasons for that.

How did this turn into a vegetarian debate? I asked a friendly simple question. it's NOT ALL I know how to cook, I work my butt off all day every day building a homestead with no running water and no real power to speak of, clearing by hand and working harder than I ever have in my life. I'm not going to debate this with you. You don't know me or my lifestyle.

Would it make you feel better if I told you I had liver failure years ago and I CAN'T eat meat, that it leaves me in severe pain and usually a hospital trip (when it's accidentally ingested). What about that before the liver failure, since birth I've been allergic to chicken and that if I even get a little chicken grease my mouth and esophagus break out in horrible ulcers and it's hard to eat for several days. Why don't you step outside of being judgmental and not worry about me and why I don't eat meat? Worry about your own dang self. Even if I COULD eat meat I probably wouldn't, I gave up fish and I'm doing just fine. Why? Well that's my business, not yours.

Flit from flower to flower - you sure can read a lot from a person from a simple post. I go through phases where I get so sick of this kind of ignorant (yes you don't know me so you are ignorant of my life and needs) reply from 1% of the people on here and just wonder why I keep posting.

I'm off to get back to my job of flower flitting now.

Ravenlost · #42 07/08/10, 05:07 PM

I want to go flower flitting with you! It sounds so much lovlier than staying here doing dishes and laundry!

Cascade Failure · #43 07/08/10, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TedH71

I agree but meat does have some things that plants can't offer. I'm trying to remember what it is....

Taste!

Goat Servant · #44 07/08/10, 06:06 PM

Now arent beans & rice in the same sitting considered the perfect protein?

Just a suggestion, Im also wondering since you cant eat regular meat how about considering goat meat? No gamey taste, no marbling. A quarter lb ground fills me up better than the same amount of ground beef. No greasy after taste either.

143 calories
27.1 gram protein
3.03 gram fat
3.73 mg iron
75 mg cholestrol

viggie · #45 07/08/10, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Goat Servant

Now arent beans & rice in the same sitting considered the perfect protein?

Protein combining is a myth. Like anyone else, vegetarians just need to get enough protein (which is NOT hard) it doesn't matter how.

tamilee · #46 07/08/10, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Sparticle

Let me start by saying we're living in an RV and cooking outside for most meals, but we can re-heat a little in the mornings when it's not hot.

I'm really sick of everything normal for breakfast and need ideas. We don't eat meat. Here is what we eat to death and are sick of

bread (loaf, biscuits, pancakes, waffles etc)
Eggs (scrambled and fried)
oatmeal and grits
fried potatoes

any ideas

We just moved back into our house after living for a few months in our camper.
Anyway, for breakfast I enjoyed fresh teriyaki stir fried veggies over rice. Stir fried apples over rice. Banannas over rice.
I know you said you are sick of bread BUT... have you tried heating ghee or butter on a skillet and browning the bread in it on each side? Pour a little syrup or spread preserves over. It is fantastic.
Also you can toast the bread this way and after removing the bread add more butter a little sugar and red wine to the skillet and stir until it is carmalized then pour over the bread and top with whipped cream or cool whip.
You can also toast the bread and top with fruit or fruit pie filling and a bit of cool whip.
Fruit salad, fresh fruit sliced tossed in a bit of orange juice or orange juice and yogurt, toss in a few chopped walnuts or brazil nuts or even sunflower seeds. That is really good for breakfast.
Also veggie burgers are good in the morning too. Black bean burgers with ketchup and cole slaw, yummy.
Veggies are good any time of the day!!

Alice In TX/MO · #47 07/08/10, 09:47 PM

PM me your address and I'll mail you some of my homemade granola. Personally, I have it with fresh goat milk, but that's up to you.

If you are close enough (I saw you are in Missouri), you can come pick up some milk, too.

#48 07/08/10, 10:41 PM

I sautee mushrooms and spinach in a pan-use butter. I then add in a whole egg and one egg white that's been stirred up. When that's done to my liking I cut up a wedge or Laughing Cow low fat Swiss cheese and let it sit there until it's melted. I then add salsa on top.

You can also put this in a burrito.

If you put strawberries on the side it's particulary yummy!

tlrnnp67 · #49 07/09/10, 03:02 AM

I made some blackeyed pea fritters the other day.

Mash up some drained blackeyed peas with a fork. Reserve some of the liquid in case you need to add it later. You want them to still have some texture. Add a finely diced fresh jalapeño, a coarsely chopped bell pepper (any color, but I used red), some minced garlic, some diced onion (I used scallions with the tops too since I needed to use them up), salt, pepper, garlic powder to taste, a few tablespoons of flour, a beaten egg, and anything else you like. Red pepper flakes are good if you like a little more zing. Stir it all together until it makes a thick batter. Drop by large spoonfuls into hot pan. Fry in olive oil until crispy brown on both sides.

I also do something similar with shredded squash or zucchini but use cornmeal instead of or in addition to flour. These make up firmer so you can shape them into patties and dust the outside with cornmeal as well. Fry as above.

Both of these are good hot and cold and can be dipped in your favorite save.

tlrnnp67 · #50 07/09/10, 03:04 AM

That should be your favorite "sauce".

Sparticle · #51 07/09/10, 08:20 AM

Oh my goodness the last 3 suggestions sound awesome too. This morning I had left over Falfil and Humous without the pita. Problem is, this last batch was made with the last of the Tahini, and that was the last of the falafil. I can't wait to get my garden going again so I can grow what I like to eat! Having to buy food at the grocery store can be painful, especially when the food you are used to eating isn't sold. But first we have to build a house and that's the most important thing. The neighbors are taking good care of us, getting fresh raw goats milk and eggs from one neighbor; veggies from another. My mother in law found some pretty good mushrooms in town and had those last night, mmmmm. Never thought of sauteeing with spinach. If that works, it probably works well with Dandelion. I'll try that with the left over mushrooms and get some extra minerals in me!

Going to try the rice pudding very soon and that blackeyed pea thing!

freelove · #52 07/09/10, 08:40 AM

When I was a child I wanted soup for breakfast. How about cold soups - fruit soup, gazpacho, vichyssoise, cucumber yogurt, etc?

I am a vegetarian and have often talked about the protein combining myth. People - especially those who think meat is the ONLY food - refuse to believe that you do not need huge amounts of complete (animal) protein in every meal. I have been a vegetarian for nearly 30 years and I am very healthy. I never give a thought to where my protein is coming from. THANK YOU, vigilant20, for posting that so that I don't feel like a lone voice in the wilderness!!

ronbre · #53 07/09/10, 09:30 AM

sorry i've sworn off nearly all carbs when it was affecting my blood sugar and i lost part of my vision temporarily..so i can't help much..right now i'm eating bacon and eggs

TedH71 · #54 07/09/10, 10:35 AM

Never heard of anyone allergic to chicken. You're the first one. Most of the time when I think of food allergies, I'm thinking vegetable allergies...also peanut allergies which my brother in law has. I know you don't eat anything that has pig in it due to your pet pig which I can understand.

As for goat meat, it can get dry fast if you don't know how to cook it right. As for vegan meals..I can't help you much because I rarely eat 100% vegan meals. I don't get as full or get lots of energy from vegetables oddly enough. I get diarrhea if I have too much veggies so I have to kind of balance it out. My problem is I do eat too much meat and am working on it.

Do you eat pasta? There are different combos.

byexample · #55 07/09/10, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Sparticle

We've Doctored our pancakes every way I can think of, whole wheat, wheat bran, nuts etc.

NEVER heard of pecan flour, that's going on the list too! Wonder where I'd get that here though.

I have been fighting with the closest stores (30 min one way) just to get decent Kale, Collards and Real apple cider vinegar. It's over an hour to get anything "exotic" that used to be my routine diet. We're building our homestead now and growing food I like is top of the list.

We make our own pecan flour. Just put pecans in a small food processor and buzz for about 30 seconds or until it reaches the desired consistency. We're on a small solar power system too and we have no problems running the small food processors. Even the larger ones are ok on our system since one only uses power for a few seconds here and there.

Depending on how fresh your pecans are you may find that you can / should leave out some / all of the oil in a recipe since the nuts have some oil in them. This is especially true if you use fresh nut flour for cookies since too much oil will cause your cookies to spread out and get real thin.

beaglady · #56 07/09/10, 11:55 AM

How about leftover cold baked beans on whole wheat toast. Best if the beans are sweet rather than spice. I know you said you're tired of toast, but the beans make it interesting again.

Another breakfast we've been making lot lately is a fritatta. We use a couple cups of leftover vegetables, usually including greens or spinach, plus mushrooms. Add a dozen beaten eggs and about a half a pound of whatever kind of cheese you like. Pour into a heated cast iron skillet, then bake at $375 for about 1/2 hour til set. I make this in the evening and turn it out onto a plate to cool. Then I refrigerate it and we eat it in cold wedges in the AM. This weeks version is kale, potatoes, onions, zucchini and smaked cheddar. It varies endlessly with what veggies need to be used up, and what kind of cheese was a bargain.

Sparticle · #57 07/09/10, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by byexample

We make our own pecan flour. Just put pecans in a small food processor and buzz for about 30 seconds or until it reaches the desired consistency. We're on a small solar power system too and we have no problems running the small food processors. Even the larger ones are ok on our system since one only uses power for a few seconds here and there.

Depending on how fresh your pecans are you may find that you can / should leave out some / all of the oil in a recipe since the nuts have some oil in them. This is especially true if you use fresh nut flour for cookies since too much oil will cause your cookies to spread out and get real thin.

That is wonderful information. We have a small food processor (gift from someone on this board) and it's in the box because we only have one solar panel hooked up right now (mainly for this computer), but it runs a few lights too. I can't wait to try the pecan flour!!!! The rest of the panels will be hooked up one day, but in the mean time I might try plugging the processor into the inverter and seeing if I can run it after I find some pecans.

Sparticle · #58 07/09/10, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by beaglady

How about leftover cold baked beans on whole wheat toast. Best if the beans are sweet rather than spice. I know you said you're tired of toast, but the beans make it interesting again.

Another breakfast we've been making lot lately is a fritatta. We use a couple cups of leftover vegetables, usually including greens or spinach, plus mushrooms. Add a dozen beaten eggs and about a half a pound of whatever kind of cheese you like. Pour into a heated cast iron skillet, then bake at $375 for about 1/2 hour til set. I make this in the evening and turn it out onto a plate to cool. Then I refrigerate it and we eat it in cold wedges in the AM. This weeks version is kale, potatoes, onions, zucchini and smaked cheddar. It varies endlessly with what veggies need to be used up, and what kind of cheese was a bargain.

Mmmm that does smell good. We have no oven, but I'm playing around with the dutch oven over the fire. I'd eat that for breakfast. So many good new ideas.

DW · #59 07/09/10, 12:42 PM

Potato pancakes, oatmeal with fruit or jam...really tastes different. I would have said smoothy but it has yogurt. We use 1 pt fruit including juice, banana & yogurt...makes enough for 3.

**Ross** · #60 07/09/10, 03:08 PM

When I glanced down the list of topic titles I thought I read yours as "Breakfast wines" not Breakfast woes. Maybe there's your answer!