I forgot how bad store milk is.
 

I'm cow-less for the first time in ten years or so, and had to get milk at the store. Poured it on my cereal and was really disappointed. No flavor - or if anything, a bit of a scalded taste.

It occurred to me that even though the government has deemed this product as safe, it is probably killing many of us. Poor tasting cooked milk causes people to favor consumption of soda and beer, leading to obesity, diabetes, etc.

I suppose this also applies to flavorless fruits and vegetables.

I agree! We have our own goat milk & I can't stand the milk from the store anymore.

I understand fully. I hate it when my goats are dried off and can't wait for freshening.

Just the reason we work on having at least one goat in milk all the time. :thumb:

Hope you find a source of 'real milk' soon!! I know I'd have a hard time adjusting to store bought milk again. Even our daughter dispises it. When we go to my relatives' houses and she's offered store bought milk, she asks if they have juice. If no juice, she'd prefer water!! And she's only 4!!
Catherine

Nihimama and Alice, I agree with both of you, however I am a person that loves milk, I can even drink the powdered stuff if that is all I have.

It will be Jan. 2011 before I have the good stuff though, so think of me when you have a good cold glass.

Nancy

No. People could just drink water as a beverage to quench your thirst. After all, water is THE drink. Unlike soda, it doesn't make you more thirsty than if you weren't drinking it. Unlike soda, water is free. Unlike soda, water is environmentally friendly to use.
As for putting water on cereals (BLEH), cold cereal is a recent fad. If I have no milk, I'll put honeyed yogurt on my cereal, if no yogurt, I make a fruit smoothy and put on it.

You should be able to find a source for real milk where you are if you go to www.realmilk.com

Yes, I could probably buy real milk from someone, but it would be much more expensive and dangerous than soda pop. The yogurt idea is fine, but hard to wash down a peanut butter sandwich with that.

Uh, if you were buying local milk, you were drinking raw, right?

I agree it's nasty. But as nasty as it is I prefer it, even skimmed, to that even nastier tasting, to me anyway, goat (gag) milk.

Don't remind me......... my cow isn't even bred...... and our milk is coming in wretched little bags. AAAAAAAAARRRRRrrrrgghhh!!!

With 65 Holstien/Jersey cross cows, and 20 Lamancha and Nubian dairy goats on the farm......we never run short on milk, even if it means stealing from the bulk tank. Yep, we are spoiled.;)
I hate the taste of improperly chilled goats milk(gag), but *properly* chilled and strained goats milk is delicious, tastes just like cows milk. Properly done goats milk starts with a clean stainless steel pail, is immediately strained into a clean glass jar, then set in the freezer for two hours to cool fast, then put in the coldest spot in the fridge and drank within a weeks time. Yum, yum. Skip any of those steps and its far more likely to gag me.

65284, you might want to consider trying properly handled goat milk! I've shocked several people with our goat milk, even causing one to get goats himself!

i really miss the Guernsey milk we used to get from a local dairy when i was a kid. that was the way milk is supposed to taste and i have not had the real deal in 20 years. the dairy still has a solid ice cream business, but i imagine their milk business was regulated out of existence.

since i know knowledgeable folk will read this thread, i have a question. we recently bought a half gallon of "Shenandoah's Pride" milk from a local store. it was ultra pasteurized. it was the most horrible milk i have ever had that had not spoiled in my fridge. it had an odd taste, probably something the cows were fed, but i cannot place it. i have tasted raw milk when i was young where the cows ate wild garlic and such and the flavor was passed to the milk. this stuff tasted sort of like it had soured and was re-pastuerized...but not really. it was an odd flavor. the only thing i can think of would be that maybe the cows were fed nasty silage. anyone have a clue what would give milk that silage flavor?

I doubt it was silage......we feed our cows corn silage all winter to supplement their hay diet and the milk tastes great.
I don't know what the flavour could be.

From what the WAPF site says about ultra pasturization-it's a "violent process" that heats the milk up in less than 2 seconds. I can imagine the milk that you had was "ultra dead" and the taste was the flavor of putred milk.

all i know is that i had to suffer the worst bowl of cocoa pebbles ever...:)

I am currently drinking real milk that I have to get in round about ways. ;) Can't wait till we have a couple of goats again!

Speaking of odd taste this milk comes from Jersey cows and last week it was strong! Couldn't figure out what they ate but it was impressive what ever it was! So what is most likely to make cows milk strong this time of year?

Not sure what is growing in your area, but when the wild onions were up I know the milk we were getting had a definite 'oniony' flavor lol.
I considered it a small price to pay for real milk.

We're past the wild onions. :) It has been very dry here for several weeks now which I guess would up the flavor on everything they eat.

last winter i was out of real milk as my does dried up early. i had some milk frozen and was very careful with it, but this year, i am freezing more so i can have time off AND fresh milk! yes, properly handled goat's milk is wonderful!

i also had a glass of goat milk year ago and thought GAG, this is horrible! then long story short, found myself iwth a doe in milk and did the proper steps and wow, good! now i also get the reaction of others, expecting it to be nasty, 'hey, this is really good!'

I think storebought milk is like a hamburger from Burger King... it's going to taste the same in Backwash Falls as in LA or DFW. Ten thousand cows milk blended together ends up pretty blahh... there might be a hundred cows with super to die for milk... and a hundred with nasty off tasting milk fit only for hogs or dogs. One of my uncle's cows is 'ok' if you're really thirsty for cows milk... but since he has five, that one usually is reserved for orphans... he bought two more last week... they say it's their best tasting milkers yet.

I'm squeezing six does each day, and agree with the others... stainless steel, glass jars, freezer... done wrong...arrgghhh... done right, hard to tell it's 'goat' milk.

Now I don't put my milk in the freezer after straining. I put mine in an ice water bath for a couple of hours making sure to keep it covered with ice. Tastes as good as any cow milk I have ever had. It does have more to do with the handling of it than anything. My goats udders are shaved, wipe them down, dry with a paper towel, milk into stainless steel, strain, & chill. I do agree it's better in glass than anything else.

We do something that I'm not sure anyone else does. We milk right into a filter.

We do too when we are milking. :)

Ozark Jewels,
I've been doing mine like Wendy for years. Strain and then set milk pail into another pail filled with ice and water and frequent stirring with a big stainless spoon. But gosh it's a nuisance to keep that much ice made everyday, and to hang around to do the stirring, but I was afraid it wouldn't cool quickly enough any other way.
It sure would be nice to skip all those steps so I'm going to try your freezer method.
Thanks,
Mickey

We do what you do, but omit the spoon step. That makes grade A milk though!

We are now down to two nannies. We had them both in the same pasture, eating the same things. One's milk was ultra yummy and the other was the most nasty milk I've ever had. So we drank the yummy stuff and feed the other's to the pigs. If we end up needing to sell one of these, I bet you can guess which one it will be!
Catherine

my neighbor said that store bought milk tastes scalded, too, when compared to our cow's milk.
I have gone without cooling the cow's milk an hour or more after milking and have never had a problem with it souring or tasting off. I have gone as far as to deliberately leave a quart out for a few days to see what happened. It turned to curds and whey, i guess. It was like yogurt. I hear that not cooling it is a real NO NO, but have yet to have a problem. I'm guessing I'm increasing the chances of making myself sick?

Mickey,

It doesn't matter how its done, as long as its cooled quickly. I don't have running water at my farm, so the method that uses the least water is what I use.;)

Cows milk is much more forgiving than goats milk. Our cows milk never tastes off unless they are eating something that is strong(garlic or ragweed).
We also leave raw milk out till it clabbers, then use it for baking, sometimes for recipes where it doesn't get cooked at all.
That is the thing about clean raw milk, it clabbers or sours and is still drinkable as long as it was kept clean.
Pasturized milk rots when it is left out, because all the bacteria(good and bad) has been cooked out of it.

And since most people think they can handle goat milk the way cow milk is, I think is part of the reason to blame for bad tasting goat milk.