Ohio's governor and HSUS

Jefferson definitely had a more hopeful view of the general population but even he thought they needed to be brought up to the level of those like him by education. He wasn't fighting for the common rabble to vote anymore than Hamilton.

Opening a can of worms........Is it fair for people who do not pay taxes to be able to vote to take money from those who do pay taxes??

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"When you are having dinner with someone and they are nice to you, but rude to the waiter, then this is not a nice person.".....Dave Barry

I suppose with out the common rabble all these educated men would of defeated the kings men on their own. fact of the matter is all people get a education one way or another be it one way or another, I know doctors and lawyers that are marginal in there chosen fields, which gets them by. know what though they couldn't drive a nail or grow a garden or just about anything the uneducated or even under educated populace can do? must of missed this one,

He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.
Thomas Jefferson

or this one

It is always better to have no ideas than false ones; to believe nothing, than to believe what is wrong.
Thomas Jefferson

hmm how often do the great enlightened ones scream the sky is falling just to change the tune 6 month latter?


I understand what these folks are up in arms over and agree they are right, seems they should have another ballot initiative.

as far as out of state folks piping in on this, I can understand as I get a bit worked up when Canadians do it on US issues, though we in the states more then not value our freedom and understand what it is to be an American.

I hope you folks can reverse these issues as this is another quote by Jefferson I hold dear,

It behooves every man who values liberty of conscience for himself, to resist invasions of it in the case of others: or their case may, by change of circumstances, become his own.
Thomas Jefferson

and even though I'm in Michigan it could set a precedent wich some slippery lawyer for some organization may very well try to ply here.

or even have one of our elected see this as a good thing and adopt, which many of our laws seem to mirror New York State laws as opposed to being more like our nieghboring states.

Well since we are way down the rabbit trail anyhoo.....

My personal opinion is no it really isn't. I am a libertarian at heart and I don't think we should be paying for anything but a basic government and an army to protect our own country. But unfortunately as the Founding fathers foresaw the people have gradually voted themselves more and more and honestly like I said short of a total meltdown I just don't see us going backwards.