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07/03/10, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by longshadowfarms
I'm sure no one breeds horses specifically for meat, but if one doesn't make the cut for what it was bred for, there's no sense wasting perfectly good meat.
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There has been a horse breeder in Yelm, WA for many years that bred draft horses specifically for the overseas meat market. He has since moved his operation to Canada.
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07/03/10, 08:19 PM
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There has been a horse breeder in Yelm, WA for many years that bred draft horses specifically for the overseas meat market. He has since moved his operation to Canada.
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My guess is that he was breeding the mares for the Canadian urine market and the meat geldings were a by product.
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07/03/10, 08:29 PM
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Due to the efforts of certain humane-iac groups, it is now illegal to sell horses for meat.
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Yet it is legal to export it to other countries for human consumption. That seems like a total hypocrisy to me.
So... what is the rationale for making a law against selling horsemeat in the U.S. for human consumption? To protect the public good? Sounds like a law that ought to be stricken down. More useless nanny state intrusion.
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07/03/10, 08:31 PM
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You'll find these stupid food rules getting knocked down by the dozen, if not just flagrantly broken, as soon as the American agricultural market fails.
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07/03/10, 08:40 PM
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You'll find these stupid food rules getting knocked down by the dozen, if not just flagrantly broken, as soon as the American agricultural market fails.
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Or when people take back their liberties and establish a thriving bartering economy!
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07/03/10, 08:47 PM
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I would love to try horse meat but I know of no one around here who butchers them.
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07/03/10, 09:12 PM
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How the *censored* can anyone even THINK of eating horses?! I wouldn't eat horse meat for all the money in the world!!!
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07/03/10, 09:21 PM
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How the *censored* can anyone even THINK of eating horses?! I wouldn't eat horse meat for all the money in the world!!!
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Absolutely your right and choice not to eat horsemeat. What I eat is none of your danged business.
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07/03/10, 09:22 PM
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How the *censored* can anyone even THINK of eating horses?! I wouldn't eat horse meat for all the money in the world!!!
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Heh. I said the same thing once about bugs.
Best water I ever drank in my life I had to get down on my knees and lap out of a muddy hoofprint. Took me 2 days to find it.
Nature has a way of breaking down food aversions.
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07/03/10, 09:45 PM
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How the *censored* can anyone even THINK of eating horses?! I wouldn't eat horse meat for all the money in the world!!!
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I would love to know how you came to this concusion?
I don't see a problem with anything that has no inherent harm in consuming it. Have you ever hear of Rocky Mountain Oysters or Rattle Snake? Both are served at the Rustler's Rooste in Phoenix at the top of hill next to the posh Pointe Hilton Resort. Neither are something I'm much interested in but it wouldn't take "all the money in the world" to convince me to try...
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07/03/10, 09:47 PM
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My guess is that he was breeding the mares for the Canadian urine market and the meat geldings were a by product.
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No he was breeding horses for meat. He moved to Canada only in the last couple of years because of the US aversion to horses being used as meat.
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Originally Posted by MrCalicoty
Yet it is legal to export it to other countries for human consumption. That seems like a total hypocrisy to me.
So... what is the rationale for making a law against selling horsemeat in the U.S. for human consumption? To protect the public good? Sounds like a law that ought to be stricken down. More useless nanny state intrusion. 
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It is the "inhumane" conditions that were in place for horse slaughter that made it illegal to butcher horses in the US....not to protect the public.
Of course the hauling of horses to Mexico or Canada has become far more inhumane than the ways of slaughter before the laws.
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07/03/10, 09:55 PM
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There must be plenty of ways to raise horses humanely for butchering just like cattle, rabbits, chickens, etc. There shouldn't be broad based laws against eating meat due to arbitrary decisions on some supposed higher morality issues. No one wants to be cruel to horses.
I'd still like to opportunity to try horse meat and don't like laws telling me I can't
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07/03/10, 10:02 PM
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There must be plenty of ways to raise horses humanely for butchering just like cattle, rabbits, chickens, etc. There shouldn't be broad based laws against eating meat due to arbitrary decisions on some supposed higher morality issues. No one wants to be cruel to horses.
I'd still like to opportunity to try horse meat and don't like laws telling me I can't
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I think most HTers are against the slaughter bans. There are so many unsound, untrained horses, the economy is in the tank, they just starve in a pasture until their owner can't manage that anymore. Then, it's a stressful ride to Mexico where some serious horrors await.  If you don't know specifics, you don't want to.
I've had horses I considered some of my best friends, but I see the reason for slaughter. I just wish it were done humanely, and before the poor animal suffered from neglect. Do I hope and pray my old sorrel friend lived out his days in a lush pasture being fed sugar cubes and spoiled rotten somewhere? Of course I do! But if it came to it, I'd prefer he had a quick bullet while he was muzzle deep in grain than shipped to Mexico to be butchered alive.
Sorry. Sore subject. One reason I'll probably never get a pony for my kid, it would destroy me to have to ever sell it and wonder what happened, if he suffered.
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07/03/10, 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by MrCalicoty
Yet it is legal to export it to other countries for human consumption. That seems like a total hypocrisy to me.
So... what is the rationale for making a law against selling horsemeat in the U.S. for human consumption? To protect the public good? :
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No, it has nothing to do with protecting the population this time~!. it is PETA and all those Extreme Animal rights folks, and that is why they closed the processing plants in the USA. That were all being USDA Inspected too.
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07/03/10, 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ozark_jewels
Cheeseburgers are made with beef. Unless you put bacon on them they are clean to eat. 
I believe the food laws were given to us for our health, so I follow them. I am speaking of the clean/unclean animal laws. Chews cud and has cloven hooves, then it is clean.
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Well, pigs ARE omnivores, sooooo....
EDIT: WHAHAHA, just read this last last page (about 30 posts)!! Hadn't paid much attention to this in my subscription box; silly me, I thought we'd still be talking about TASTE!
In reply to above post: Dang PETA and those people. They think they are being helpful. People who don't farm, and try and stick their noses in farm legislature, get things so very messed up.
In other news, I think we should be able to eat: All these DANG horses that have to be given away, there are too many of the dang things, just because, for some reason, the FREE UNITED STATES has legislature that denies you that right!! I don't know which alarms me more, the fact that they got it through or the fact that people let it go through! Free Country - Not if you let it slip, and oh BOY is it slippin', slippin' fast and we better catch it before it's too late!
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Last edited by Heritagefarm; 07/03/10 at 11:06 PM.
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07/03/10, 10:57 PM
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Nowwaitaminute! Grass fed beef is supposed to be more tender than that feedlot stuff! At least that's what everybody has been saying....
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Not really. You don't want to finish them on grass. They end up too lean and the meat can be too dry to some people.
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07/03/10, 11:08 PM
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Not really. You don't want to finish them on grass. They end up too lean and the meat can be too dry to some people.
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Someone who raises grassfed meat might disagree with that.
EDIT: Oh who am I to say! I've never even TASTED a 100% grassfed beef.
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07/03/10, 11:08 PM
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I pay extra for grass-finished beef. When I eat beef I want it to taste like the beef of my childhood.
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07/03/10, 11:10 PM
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Now does grass-finish mean to pump 'em with grain and then FINISH them with grass, or to raise them on grass to the FINISH?
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[QUOTE=MrCalicoty;4510030]Rocky Mountain Oysters or Rattle Snake?
Yummm, had both. Rocky Mountain Oysters, or calf fries, are a specialty around this area and the city of Eagle has an annual "nut feed" that is very popular. Rattle snake wasn't that spectacular from what I remember, more one of those things that I ate so that I could check it off on the list of "things to eat before I die".
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