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Old 05/31/10, 11:22 AM
 
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There is one that is on during the morning on weekends where they send the family on vacation, destroy the home, and rebuild a mansion for the family. Of course, they spend 15minutes convincing the audience that it is a deserving, needy family, but most are in one way or another.
That one really bothers me because they destroy perfectly good homes at times that can be repaired. Not all could be, but most could simply be remodeled for the families.
The worst programs IMO are the house hunter ones. It is interesting to see houses, especially international ones, but so much of it seems extremely excessive. That really bothers me.
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Old 05/31/10, 11:57 AM
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Holmes on Homes is about the only one I find useful. The rest are entertainment. Mike Holmes has done a couple of homes not far from here, spent time in some of the schools with his children's work. The newer Home Inspection one is better now that he's had to stop doing it himself so much and turn it over to Damon and his kids are more involved (Mike Jr., Sherry, his son-in-law Adam).
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Old 05/31/10, 12:03 PM
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Only This Old House and Hometime are broadcasts that I see and not with any regularity.

I saw one of the shows you mention last year in which sellers upgrade in order to make the best possible return. One couple was told that granite counters are now passè and to rip them out and install solid surface material ones such as DuPont Corian©. And of course the show eventually showed the remodel with the granite ones gone. Wonder if they used a sledge hammer on them in order to carry they out in lighter weight pieces of if they actually salvaged them for reuse?
This is the worst. A tree grows back quickly but a rock does not. My friend's dad would go to junk yards, I think, and salvage pieces of granite/marble and use them as tables and counter tops. Civil War monuments in granite, such great things, and now we use them for counters for awhile and then tear them out.
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I haven't heard that granite countertops are passe, and the home improvement shows are still promoting them. Anyone who tears out granite and puts in plastic looking corian needs their head examined. There must have been more to that story. Like was the granite stained, chipped, cracked or poorly installed? Was it a color that didn't go with today's muted tones?
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Old 05/31/10, 12:38 PM
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The amounts being spent are just too big for me to enjoy them anymore. I used to enjoy the shows on how to use a lathe or make smaller projects but those apparently don't pull in the advertisers.
This gets me too-60K to remodel a kitchen!??!?! ACK!!

Love Holmes on Homes too, Angie, Dale, etc.
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I enjoy watching people waste money if it isn't mine.
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We don't have cable so I don't watch those shows. I once in a while watch this old house and they really end up putting a lot of money in them.

On another forum I belong to, one guy was able to salvage cupboards from a new house that the owners didn't like after a couple of years. He was building his own home and was able to use all these cupboards in his house and they were like new.
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Hubby and I bought the family home from the In-Law's estate after they passed away.

The neighborhood where our house in the burbs sits is an upper middle class neighborhood in Orange County California. The 'hood' consists of two large tracts that were built in the early 60's, and there are several hundred homes. There are currently two houses for sale in this neighborhood. They are across the street from each other and are the same floor plan. One has been fully upgraded over the years and has a new kitchen with granite countertops and stainless steel appliances. It has a new roof, paint inside and out.

The other has been well maintained but always as economically as possible. The appliances are older, white. Older laminate countertops. The roof is old cedar shake. While it probably doesn't leak, it looks very old and tired and curled with age. In fact, the whole house looks tired from the outside. Most homes in the neighborhood replaced their old original cedar shakes. We replaced our roof, in 2003 at the demand of our insurance company. It still looks new.

The price difference between the two properties is approximately $75,000. I know, because I checked. Whoever buys the lower priced home will either be looking for a bargain, and be willing to live with it as is, or will be spending $$$$$$ to bring it up to the standards of the rest of the neighborhood.

And that is the point. The standards of the neighborhood. I have spoken with several realtors who have told me that in this area, buyers expect a certain standard of care and materials. And they all say "Kitchens sell houses".

We already own our ranch, free and clear. Once we sell the house in the burbs we will be debt free, and everything we get from the sale of the house in the burbs above the mortgage will be cash in hand, so we can finally make the ratty little ranch house livable, make necessary improvements to the ranch, and set some aside for retirement.

My kitchen cabinets are old and most of the finish has worn off. A realtor told me the honey colored oak cabinets "Looks 80's, doncha think?". It does, and they were installed in 1988. But they were very well made, and the style is timeless, so I will be stripping and painting them. Other than the finish, they are in excellent condition.

I just about fainted when I got an estimate for $5,800.00 for granite countertops! After searching the web I found a place that offered them for $29 per square foot INSTALLED! The total for granite for my kitchen was $2,800!

Also, I get emails from Sears whenever they have a good sale on appliances. I needed to replace a double wall unit oven, and a cooktop stove. I got that email from Sears that they were having their sale, and visited their site. I found a stainless steel oven that was usually $1.500, but was half off! between that, and the stainless steel cooktop that was also on sale, I got them both, paid for taxes and installation for less than I would have paid for the oven alone at full price! I had already replaced the fridge and dishwasher several years ago as the old ones broke, with stainless steel and they still look new, so I didn't have that expense now. And another $350 for undermount stainless steel sink and new faucet.

What is left? I spent about $200.00 for tumbled travertine and a pretty medallion for a backsplash. The medallion will be centered over the stove, and from what I have learned on the home improvement shows, I will be doing the installation myself. Also, as I saw done on one of those shows, I took all of my colors from the granite. I carried a sample with me to the home improvement stores.

There is a long bar into the family room that was sagging. I had some wrought iron support brackets made for $65.00 apiece. They are decorative and extremely strong! Please ignore the paint and carpet colors here. They (at least the paint) will be changing.

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Anyway, my kitchen will be beautifully done for less than $5,000.00. The work I did and will be doing on my own, I learned how to do by watching the DIY and HGTV shows.

The backsplash will be my second tile job.

I tiled the shower and floor of the master bath. I made a few mistakes, but a professional (the guy with the high estimate fore the granite) said he was impressed! That was also about $200.00 worth of supplies. I had to hire a pro to install shower doors, but that cost about the same as doing it myself with a kit from HD. I am a skilled shopper! My tile job was uneven enough that I was uncomfortable enough with trying to conceal my uneven tile job when installing new glass shower doors, that I thought a pro could do a much better job, and he did a beautiful job.

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Finally, My son lost patience with a sticking front door latch and leaned into the glass panel, breaking it. I checked into the cost of replacing the doors, and with installation for some low end double doors, it was going to cost around $2000.00 to replace. I started looking at just replacing the glass. I was told here on HT that I needed to use tempered glass, and in my search I found that to be true.

I asked the shower door installers to sell me some tempered glass (glue chip pattern) for my front doors and matching bathroom window. They did, for $300.00. They measured accurately, and cut it for me and smoothed the sides! I installed the glass myself using the skills I learned watching these shows. The doors aren't sanded and painted yet, and that will be one of the last things to happen before I put the house on the market. My dog goes insane and shreds the paint on the inside of the doors whenever someone walks up to the door, walks by on the sidewalk, drives by on a USPS, UPS, Fedex vehicle, ice cream truck, etc. I'll take that opportunity to replace the handles and hardware. Doggy will be living at the ranch by then.

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Anyway, I am using what I learned watching those shows, and I expect I will sell faster and for a better price than the other two for sale in our neighborhood. Why? Our house has more flair than the others. Even the expensive one is plain vanilla with very little personality. Ours will have slightly better upgrades, and I'm sure I paid far less for mine than they did.

And while our original house was the same approximate square footage as the others for sale, same bedrooms and baths, etc. Our has an 800 square foot addition. A mother in law apartment! Income property! And there happens to be a new HGTV show "Income Property" which I am hoping will get people thinking how nice it will be to buy a house that already has a turn key rental to provide income that will help pay their mortgage!

In essence, I am using what I have learned on those shows to improve this house, for a better sale price and faster sale. I will also use what I have learned (and learned from the mistakes I have already made) to fix up the house at the ranch, and that one will be for our own enjoyment. And if we ever sell the ranch during our lifetimes, we will see an increase in value from those improvements as well.
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Old 05/31/10, 11:09 PM
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Common Tater - that's some of the best use of tv shows that I've seen.

I think you're doing wonderful. And when you fix up the ranch, please post those photos also.

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Old 05/31/10, 11:23 PM
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I haven't heard that granite countertops are passe, and the home improvement shows are still promoting them. Anyone who tears out granite and puts in plastic looking corian needs their head examined. There must have been more to that story. Like was the granite stained, chipped, cracked or poorly installed? Was it a color that didn't go with today's muted tones?
Of course they are still promoted and desired but the one giving advice said that, not any normal person. My son-in-law and I looked at each other and couldn't believe what we had heard. The homeowner questioned him on it as they had just installed them about 4 years earlier. The guy giving the advice gave a flip of his wrist and used the word passè.

They were black and in excellent shape and any normal person would have ignored that particular bit of advice.
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Old 05/31/10, 11:49 PM
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Of course they are still promoted and desired but the one giving advice said that, not any normal person. My son-in-law and I looked at each other and couldn't believe what we had heard. The homeowner questioned him on it as they had just installed them about 4 years earlier. The guy giving the advice gave a flip of his wrist and used the word passè.

They were black and in excellent shape and any normal person would have ignored that particular bit of advice.
The guy giving the advice must have received a commission for the countertops, and that could be the only reason to make that change.
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I figure those same people trade in wives for younger versions and euthanize pets at the first sign of fleas!

There are so many less invasive and cheaper ways to change things around...why not give us options?
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I love it when someone spends $60k or more on a kitchen remodel. well atleast when I'm doing the work.
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They used to have a show called "Look What I Did" on Hgtv or DIY. It was great, ordinary people decorated their homes, yards etc. So many good ideas, usually using recycled things. I got up early every morning to watch. But they took it off.
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I enjoy the inner city real estate shows on HGTV. I find it entertaining to see how people want to purchase remodeled closets for $300,000+.

I also enjoy the international real estate shows. It is amazing to see how other cultures live and what is important to them. For instance, bathrooms and kitchens are teeny tiny. Most laundry rooms, if they have them, are in the kitchen and no dishwashers.
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