dibetes?

Did you ever get the feeling that you were being used to increase the wealth of another doctor? A 12 hour fasting blood test would have been more accurate to determine if you need to see a specialist. Find another GP who will treat your conditon (if you have it) and that why you don't get the old tag team routine.

A post-prandial blood sugar level; 2 hours after meals, 166 would be considered almost normal.
There is a lot of good information on the Internet for natural diabetes control and care.

I would not ignore it. Simply taking a hiatus from a healthier life style isn't going to cause you to have diabetes. I think your doctor is right and you should get in control with your exercise and habits before you cross over that borderline.

I have a book at home with some good advice; natural health cures. When I get a chance I'll post them for you.

Take care!

digApony

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well for someone who generally works out for 2 hours per day and works in the garden for up to 9 hours a day if the weather permits...i wouldn't say I am sedentary !

as for healthy eating..i generally have pretty good eating habits, however, we had a spell of really cold nasty weather and I got to baking..as I said, brownies and banana bread..and I KNEW I had eaten way too much of it..even though I didn't gain any weight from it.

that crap is all out of the house.

I use only skim milk, I eat only whole grain wheat or mostly whole grain rye bread, whole grain pastas, fruits (probably too many of them) vegetables but I do eat white potatoes fairly regularly..generally baked with skin on.

We also had a couple of meals of fast food that same week..which we generally never do, I could go for years never having any fast food so that was also an unusual thing, probalby the weather brought a lot of it on, cause we went from 80s and gardening to 20's and cold wet hiding under a blankie weather.

Also I had hurt my back (dr says i pulled a bunch of ligaments and tendons in the upper part of my back both sides of my spine from doing too much garden work, overdoing)...so I was on purpose laying off the exercises for a short time, two weeks, just to rest the back..which won't last long as I have more than a dozen trees and grape vines to plant tomorrow.

Yeah, I thought maybe he was full of hooey..but ..i am perfectly capable of getting back to my exercising and getting back to eating healthier again.

thanks all for the advice.

when the specialists office calls for an appointment I'll kindly decline and ask for a fasting blood sugar test first to be done before i go..( I can pay the $16 for that)...and then they can go from there..I'll ask them to inform my dr that I will not be seeing anyone until I get the results of that test first.

Why don't you just pay $9.00 and get the Relion A1c from Walmart? If you are over 5, then follow up with the doctor?

Can someone explain what numbers are considered normal? I provide Diabetes care and we use a different scale here in Canada. I always read these threads and get to wondering.

Normal is here is between 4 and 6. What are the corresponding numbers for the normal range in the US? We hospitalize over 22 and over 30, we flush with an IV of saline.

I dont have diabetes but I have a pre existing liver disease condition. My numbers are always great (around 5) but I'm very careful to eat at regular intervals. Dehydration just wipes me out. I also swear by a high fibre diet. How many of us are even close to getting the recommended 25- 30 grams of fibre a day? Its a challenge but crucial to maintaining good glucose levels.
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Thank you for posting the 101bloodsugar site. I found the comparison for the numbers that I was looking for.

My challenge is to keep the numbers in the happy zone and still consume enough fibre to stave off dehydration between meals. I'd like to see myself stay below 5 a little more consistently but my nightshift job is whacking out my eating habits.

I wouldnt be seeing a specialist at this point either. A bit more testing under controlled conditions sounds like the way to go.

Quoted from: "The World's Greatest Treasury of Health Secrets" Bottom Line Publications (a very good book in my opinion).

Vitamin D and Diabetes
Vitamin D may play a part in preventing diabetes. A Swedish study found that men with lower levels of vitamin D had higher blood pressure, higher triglyceride fat levels and higher insulin resistance, all factors associated with Type 2 or adult onset diabetes. Four eight ounce glasses of milk per day have enough vitamin D to provide the RDA of 400 international units. page 247

Vinegar May Help Fight Diabetes
In a recent study, healthy patients and patients with a prediabetic condition known as insulin resistance drank a vinegar drink (1/8 cup of vinegar, dilluted with 1/4 cup of water and sweetened with saccharine) or a placebo drink before a high-carbohydrate meal. The vinegar treatment improved insulin sensitivity by up to 40% in both groups.
Theory: Vinegar inhibits the breakdown of carbohydrates, thereby decreasing the blood glucose spikes that occur in people with diabetes.

If you are diabetic or insulin resistant: Talk to your doctor about drinking diluted vinegar before meals. page 533-534


Reduce Diabetic Nerve Pain: [you mentioned neuropathy]
Researchers evaluated the effects of the nutritional supplement acetyl-L-carnitine (ALC) on diabetic neuropathy, a condition that occurs when diabetes damages the nerves, especially those in the hands, legs, and feet. Symptoms include numbness, tingling, and/or pain.

...Two clinical trials found that those who took 3,000 mg of ALC daily experienced a significant reduction in pain.
My view: [Author] While ALC often is prescribed for those with age-related cognitive decline (poor memory) and early stage Alzheimer's disease it now should be considered a primary form of treatment for diabetic neuropathy.
Take 1,000mg of ALC three times daily (the same dosing schedule used in the study).
ALC has a blood-thinning effect, so check with your doctor before using it if you take a blood thinner, such a warfarin (Coumadin). page 534

This is worth a try in my opinion and for everyone this is a great book! Not only is there advice for good health, but how to detect doctors that are in bed with pharmacuticals etc.

I wish you the best.

digApony

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i also read that using vinegar or pickles probably helps as well, hey maybe Mnasobu Fukoka had something there, he says that early Japanese existed on rice, grain, vegetables and a LOT of pickles..

i read that before I got the call I might be diabetic and then when researching I saw the pickle thing..i like pickles but was always told that they weren't good for you..also vinegar on salads..yum..i can start adding it into my diet.

I take Vitamin D and at one time did take L-Carnatine (is that the same thing?) to help rebuild after surgery

I plan on looking at the glucose meters next time into Walmart and see if I can swing the $ for one..won't be until after check comes on Wed. Restarted my exercising again this morning as my back pain has let up some..and will be out planting a couple dozen trees and grapvines later today..and getting my fruit tree guilds in order.

I went back to eating rolled oats cooked in water with walnuts and cinnamon, no milk, no sugar, no salt..that is how i prefer them...simple and plain...I have heard cinnamon helps to control blood sugar, and also heard that about chromium picolinate.

thanks everyone for your input

Look up the info for ONETOUCH bg meters on line. Then call their toll free #. They will send you a meter (which can be hooked to your computer to download if you like to keep records) FREE. They will also include a few test strips. Cheapest way to buy test strips is on ebay. Lots of folks get more from their ins than they actually use and sell them on bay. That is how I buy mine. The Walmart A1C tests are pretty reliable. Watch out for eating too much protein and fat. Diabetics are prone to vascular problems even when adequately controlled and too much protein can be hard on your kidneys. I am sure once yo get over the shock you can learn to live with this if you are a diabetic. Seems like it is an epidemic these days. Good luck.

It may be different: next time you are out take a look at the bottle and see if both are listed. acetyl-L-carnitine (ALC) or L-Carnatine. Then make sure you are taking 3,000 mg a day and 400 of Vitamin D per day.

I was thumbing through the book and I found that magnesium is important for the absorbtion of Vitamin D. Otherwise the Vitamin D is simply excreted.

You need to check on that to be sure. I was tired when I read it...

Sounds like you are taking control and I am glad.

After reading about diabetes in the book I mentioned, I need a sugar test myself.

Have a good day.

digApony

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Check the link I posted in post #14. One Touch will send you a free glucometer or a coupon to take to the pharmacy to get a free glucometer.

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Stroke? From diabetes or High blood pressure?

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i started another thread ..followup to diabetes thread...i bought a blood test meter and an A1c test...did both..first test on meter was 114..a few hours after a meal.

I'll check in morning after not eating all night and then from time to time a couple hours after meals to see where i'm falling on the numbers...did the A1c test and it is going in tomorrows mail..

Ronbre, I think you need a new provider.

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That doesn't make sense. People with diabetes tend not to die from diabetes but from heart disease. People with diabetes often have blood sugars of 200. It's not exactly great but it's certainly not the end of the world.

A blood sugar or 200 would not cause a stroke. It can't cause a stroke. High blood pressure or a bleed cause strokes.

Are you sure that your doctor wasn't saying that a systolic blood pressure (top number) of 200 could cause a stroke?

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This is a really good site and they have some good DVD's.

http://www.rawfor30days.com/index4.html