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Old 04/18/10, 01:44 PM
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There was a blueberry filching thread? What'd I miss?
It was last year... someone was thinking, or already had, filched some blueberry bushes that were being overrun by other shrubbery, on some land owned by an absentee owner that hadn't ever visited the property.

Big whooptidoo by one faction, that believed in the total sacrosanct ownership of land and by another faction that saw the plants going to waste, and wanting to save them. Some folks believed that if they owned land out in the country and visited only every now and then, that the land would be inviolable, when in reality, everyone treats such tracts as 'commons lands', until the owner shows up and establishes his/her de facto ownership.

The thread got hot and heavy for a while... some wanting to save the poor orphaned blueberries, and others, wishing the death of the blueberries, in the name of property rights puritanship.
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There was a blueberry filching thread? What'd I miss?
He's talking about my asparagus, I think.
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Old 04/18/10, 11:08 PM
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Basically, people do not have a right to enter land they do not own, but there are weasely ways of getting around that, such as making the owner responsible for putting up No Trespassing signs along road/access entries and property boundary lines, or since the trespassers tear signs down, then painting boundary line trees with rows of three lines, one under the other, with orange or silver aluminum paint.
And the dog hunters have arranged for a special law in their favor - they can enter property to "retrieve" a dog. They are supposed to leave their gun(s) behind and notify the owner. Ha ha. the problem with that law is, it does not address the problem of poachers and "hunters" turning their dogs loose on other peoples' land to start with. Or a parallel problem where they turn dogs loose on someone else's land (say, Shenandoah National Park) so they will run the bear or deer out of the park, where hunting is illegal, onto private land to shoot them. "Oh, you can't control where a dog goes."
Yeah, right!
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Old 04/19/10, 01:33 AM
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Here is the thread on "Is it OK to steal/ tresspass for blueberries", that Texican posted about..

When is "snitching" not "stealing"?

A couple of years ago when some of the kids up here on the hilltop wandered off from home, I had the Sheriff's Department show up at my place. Yes they first asked permission to come onto the place to look into the lower property vantage points, to see if they could be found in the valley below. The kids were found down in the bottoms near Jacoby Creek unharmed the next morning by Search and Rescue.
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Old 04/19/10, 02:47 AM
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Never on my property because its double fenced with barbed wire topping to keep unwanted children, idiots and religious missionaries (those idiots deserve their own catagory) out and my critters in.
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Old 04/19/10, 06:25 AM
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Always ask before entering woods, pastures and fields etc. Except when?
except never. Im pretty radical about respecting property. I even ask people whos property I use regularly, or at least I let them know when I might be going out there so they know
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Old 04/19/10, 06:56 AM
 
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I like to keep an open mind about this sort of thing and for good reason.

I have entered other people's property from the road on more than one occasion. Several times have been driving past and seen a sheep with four feet in the air - easier to climb the fence and stand it up than bugger around finding the owner who would only do the same thing. Another time was to go and look at an obviously distressed cow to find her calving and two back feet presenting. She was so exhausted she allowed me to feel around to work out which feet it was I was looking at. Went and found the farmer who got the vet out and thanked me profusely. Calf was touch and go when they got it out but both cow and calf survived. Worth entering somebody else's property for yes?

Then it's worked my way too. One time a scruffy lot of youngsters in a beat up car called at the house to tell me they had hauled a sheep out of the river and it didn't look too good. Most people wouldn't have given them the time of day but thanks to them (with an apparently non-rural background) my pregnant ewe survived. Another incident was seeing a man run across a paddock, climb over the fence, get into his vehicle and roar off - as far as my gate. I met him in high dudgeon only to have to shut up because he wanted wire cutters to get a cow out of the fence. He'd been driving past and seen something funny so went to investigate and found one of my heifers tangled up in the fence and upside down. Cows don't survive too long upside down and he was in a panic. I'm milking her now.

On the other hand I've booted people off my property for just coming on to fish for eels in the river, pick mushrooms, pick watercress or help themselves to the Arum Lillies which grow wild. If they come and ask I'm happy for them to do all of those things because I like to share what I have with those that don't have access to it.

I like to think that most people are honest and are on my property for a good reason and in most cases, they are.

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Old 04/20/10, 12:46 AM
 
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I'll go along with that one-- to get the kid out of the wire. Soybeans aren't worth much on those days.
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Its all about simple respect. A dear friend of mine for over 30 years has property as do I. We understand that if myself or family want to use the others property a simple heads up is all that is needed to be said. That way we know that if we were expecting visitors the other guests wont interfear with their program.
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