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Old 04/15/10, 09:32 PM
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I prefer Dawn too, but have a question about suds. I've read that the presence of suds really is no indication of cleaning power. My mother's dishwasher has a little window on the front and, being rather easily entertained, I have watched the device do its job. The detergents don't suds up, nor do the laundry soaps for HE machines (I take their word for it, no glass-fronted washing machines here), but both seem to do the job quite well. I know there is a big difference between dishwasher detergent, laundry detergent and dish washing soap, but are suds really needed to clean dishes?
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Old 04/15/10, 09:50 PM
 
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I have found Ajax works best for me; I buy a large (dont recall the weight) bottle at Dollar General for $3. I use that to fill a small bottle to keep by the sink. The large bottle will last me a little more than 2 months.
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Old 05/04/10, 08:10 PM
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I read this a while back on cooksillustrated.com (america's test kitchen). They've never steered me wrong. Oddly, the "green" brands came out on top...even beating Dawn, which I've always favored. After I use up my Costco-sized jug of Dawn...I'll try one of the winners here.



Liquid Dish Detergent

Published October 1, 2007.

We wondered how "natural," more ecologically friendly detergents stacked up against traditional supermarket brands.


Highly Recommended
Method Go Naked Ultra Concentrated Dish Detergent
This eco-friendly detergent comes in a sleek bottle, but we were impressed by the contents-this detergent won the wetting test and aced all of our scrubbing tests.
$2.99 for 25 fluid ounces (12 cents per ounce)
Highly Recommended
Seventh Generation Free & Clear Natural Dish Liquid
This eco-friendly detergent did the best job on the nasty mess of burnt chicken teriyaki. While it is the most expensive detergent in our lineup, it performed admirably in all tests.
$3.19 for 25 fluid ounces (13 cents per ounce)
Recommended
Dawn Ultra Original Scent Concentrated Dishwashing Liquid
This bright blue detergent proved its worth by finishing just a tier below our two winners (it scored well in each washing test), making it our top choice among mass-market brands.
$2.69 for 25 fluid ounces (11 cents per ounce)
Recommended
AJAX Lemon Super Degreaser Dish Liquid
This inexpensive, "very lemony-smelling" detergent performed well in cleaning tests. A few testers commented on the high volume of suds this detergent produced.
$1.99 for 38 fluid ounces (5 cents per ounce)
Recommended
Ivory Ultra Classic Scent Concentrated Dishwashing Liquid
This detergent has no dyes but a strong "fresh baby" smell. It did an especially good job cutting through the burnt chili residue.
$2.99 for 25 fluid ounces (12 cents per ounce)
Recommended
Palmolive Ultra Original Concentrated Dish Liquid
Although a few testers were turned off by the bright green color, others liked the "old-time," "fresh laundry" scent.
$2.49 for 25 fluid ounces (10 cents per ounce)
Recommended
Joy Ultra Concentrated Lemon Dishwashing Liquid
This detergent finished last or second-to-last in all of our tests. Its lemon scent was deemed "pleasing" and "clean-smelling."
$2.29 for 25 fluid ounces (9 cents per ounce)

Liquid dish detergent is one of those household staples that most of us don't put a lot of thought into. After all, how different can dish detergents be? They all work, right? Most of us buy what's on sale or whichever product smells or looks the best. In recent years, natural, more ecologically friendly, dye- and perfume-free detergents which swap out all or most of the petroleum-based cleaning agents for vegetable-based ones have hit the market. Curious about how they stacked up against traditional brands, we rounded up seven detergents (in each brand's original or most basic formulation), rolled up our sleeves, and headed into the test kitchen to put them through their paces.

To test each detergent, we systematically burned carefully measured portions of several classic hard-to-clean foods—beef and bean chili, béchamel sauce, and skin-on chicken thighs marinated in teriyaki sauce—onto stainless-steel skillets. We measured out equal ratios of each dish detergent and temperature-controlled water, submerged the dirty pans, and started scrubbing, counting our strokes for each pan. At the end of the testing, every pan was clean: Yes, all dish detergents work. But a few detergents stood out above the others for being able to clean the pans as much as 25 percent more quickly. We were very surprised to find that the two most effective dish detergents were the "natural" ones: our assumption had always been that the more expensive eco-friendly detergents didn't clean as well as the mass-market products.

To help us better understand our kitchen results, we turned to our science editor, who explained that the active ingredients in dish detergents are chemical compounds called surfactants. Surfactants help oil and water (which normally repel each other) mix; when made "wet" by the surfactants, the oil-based food grease is surrounded by water droplets and carried away, resulting in clean dishes. The amount and type of surfactants will determine how effective a dish detergent is at attacking grease.

Since our two “natural” samples primarily use vegetable-based surfactants and the other detergents in our lineup use considerably more petroleum-based surfactants, one could assume that vegetable-based cleaning agents are more effective. Not so fast. In fact, many of the mass-market brands contain surfactants of both origins and independent researchers have not found that vegetable-based surfactants are inherently more effective than petroleum-based ones. So why did these two outperform the other detergents?

It may come down to cost. Representatives from our winners say they spend the money to load their products with high concentrations of effective surfactants, which ensures a high-performing detergent. We'd have to say this approach works.
I bought a bottle of "Method" dishwashing liquid at Target last weekend and it really does work WAY better than Dawn. Amazing...I've always used Dawn but this stuff is awesome. Well...for a dishwashing liquid anyway. I don't have a dishwasher so this stuff is pretty important!
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Old 05/04/10, 11:30 PM
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I prefer Dawn too, but have a question about suds. I've read that the presence of suds really is no indication of cleaning power.
Yes, you can make a detergent doesn't produce bubbles or suds. It just depends on the chemical formulation of the detergent.


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I used to use regular Dawn and then it seemed to not work as well. Then I started using Palmolive. Worked better than the regular Dawn. This past winter I started using the Dawn with Olay. Worked well and my fingers didn't crack as much as they normally do in the wintertime. Joy does not work for me at all. I think your water has a lot to do with it. We have very hard water.
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Old 05/05/10, 07:43 AM
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I have been using these two products for years, love them both, and the reason I switch back and forth depends on which of these my local grocery store is carrying at the time. I also cut each by close to 1/2 with water by pouring some into an old dishsoap bottle then adding water...works VERY VERY well even cut with water and lasts for months!!

I LOVE the Grapefruit sent of the Ecos product...

http://www.ecos.com/Dishmate_Grapefruit.html

and the Lemongrass is my fav from Seventh Generation...

http://www.theconsumerlink.com/Seven.../TCL+100330/16

Plus VERY cheap from this online source, I usually pay $6.59 for a bottle at the store!!

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Old 05/05/10, 09:19 AM
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I love the cucumber scent of the Method brand. Now I have to figure out what to do with the big jug of Dawn. I guess DH can use it out in the shop.
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Oh, I'm so glad this was brought up . We have a closeout/budget dollar store near us and I just bought a bottle of dish wash liquid that I LOVE!! I only bought 1 bottle, but I will definitely go back this week to buy about 6 more. The name of it is: AlmaWin, natural cleaners dishwashing liquid Eco Concentrate. It's the skin-care formula and as it says on the label "1 squirt is sufficient for a normal bowl of dirty dishes." It suds perfectly and the suds last even after the dishes are done. It's scented w/essential oils and has a very pleasant smell. Gosh, I just love this stuff!! The price was $1.99 for 16.9 oz., but I use very little of it.
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Old 05/05/10, 09:56 AM
 
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When I see those dishwashing commercials on TV, I want to gag! WHO puts a dish, with half the leftover supper, into the wash water? You might as well wash your dishes in the stew pot!

If you wipe your dishes and pots out with newspaper prior to depositing into the water, you won't need as much soap.

Or you can let the dog clean it.
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Old 05/05/10, 11:21 AM
 
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Mothers day is Sunday. Why don't you spring for a dishwasher? They are supposed to be greener than hand washing and they get the dishes darn near sterile. While your at it pick up any of the name brand dishwasher detergents, they really do get more of the crusty stuff off dishes. If your buy one of the middle or high end ones they are almost silent.

Oh, and I vote Dawn, it works great on dishes and I keep a bottle in my garage to clean my greasy hands.
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Old 05/06/10, 09:07 PM
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The regular dawn does not work as well as it used to. Right now I am using palmolive oxy and it works good but the dishes are slick and I have trouble holding onto them. I have a great dishwasher but I've just about quit using it because I still have to wash the dishes that don't fit so I don't see the savings.
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Old 05/07/10, 09:02 AM
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I usually purchase whatever is on sale, but I always make sure that my dish washing detergent DOESN"T have 'anti-bacterial' on the label. We don't have a septic system where we live now, but I read that if you do have a septic system, don't use anti-bacterial soap. I guess it is a habit now.

I put my dish detergent into a bottle with a pump. I find that it only takes a drop or two to suds up a scrubbie for the worst of the dishes. A bottle of dish soap will last me about two months.

Personally, I can't stand the smell of Dawn, so I never purchase that brand~~even when it is on sale.
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