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Old 04/04/10, 08:42 PM
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My gut feeling is logs would be worth $300-$400
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Old 04/04/10, 08:52 PM
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is that a guess for all or each large portion? Im not sure if we would pay to have them appraised, but there is a sawmill right at the end of the road, maybe they would know or have interest being so close.
BTW the branching point was at ground level, so it was a forked looking tree. I am not sure if that other forked log is hauled away or not, but I think i'll go back there tomarrow and look. There are two of the longer (at least 8 feet maybe longer) of the red oak, then two that are much smaller diameter, the rest was cut into firewood I believe, its all stacked back there.
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Any self employed logger who buys stumpage and sells logs could quickly estimate the currant value .... and then offer them to the neighbor.

Past few days not good tapping days ... and when the trees start to bud it is all over!
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Old 04/04/10, 08:58 PM
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Probably tree branched and two small logs were the branches.
Red Oak probably worth $200 could be a bit more

I have not worked in the woods logging for past 7 years ..... but when i cut and scale logs for a few weeks you start getting to the place where you can just look at a log and make a good estimate of the footage in it .... never logged professionally ... only small plots for friends and family.
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Old 04/04/10, 09:56 PM
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Hard for me to put a value on them.... not enough pics .... But I would guess that the Red oak with 3 fat stump logs and two smaller branch logs might scale up to 600 board feet and hove no idea what they would pay for that fairly good grade but could be $.50 per board foot. Tree would be worth $300 for the 5 logs. But if scales 500 board feet and they pay $.40 per board foot then would be worth $200 for the tree.

My gut tells me $400 maybe a bit more. I am making many assumptions and estimates to come up with this figure....
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Old 04/04/10, 10:00 PM
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Hey a bit off topic .... why are you lazer girl ?
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perhaps a scarlet oak? they like it wet.
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Old 04/04/10, 10:22 PM
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Hmmmm I am no expert ..... just a guesspert LOL
Is Scarlet Oak a Red Oak specie or just a condition caused by the environment a Red Oak is growing in ???
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Old 04/04/10, 11:50 PM
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it is a type of oak not a condition.


http://www.cnr.vt.edu/dendro/dendrol...heet.cfm?ID=37
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Old 04/05/10, 05:44 AM
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Maybe you could just barter them for some maple syrup down the road.
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Old 04/05/10, 07:05 AM
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Simply do not let them have the wood. Get it up off the ground somehow, and have it milled for yourself. You have someone takeing advantage of you.
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Old 04/05/10, 07:22 AM
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the Current Marekt report for Ohio is at
http://www.oardc.ohio-state.edu/ohio...AN2010_pdf.pdf
This will give you the price.
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If your state has a foret service they come for free. I have had timber theft. Forest service came out, measured trees and dealt with the person who cut the trees. Here in Maine timber theft is three times the value of the trees cut. Good luck.
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Old 04/05/10, 07:42 AM
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Ok that settles it then .... Scarlet Oak is a member of the Red Oak family and not a condition.
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Gee that currant market report gives a wide range for any specific grade
lazergrl has No. 1 saw logs (probably not prime grade but could be) the range is $.25- $.50 per board foot .... thats why if you are selling you need to put timber out for bids if you have much to sell that you believe is high value.

But I was right on when I assumed $.50 to quote those prices
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Old 04/05/10, 07:55 AM
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Hey if you scale them please share the results and the scale they used (Doyle or International)
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Old 04/05/10, 12:34 PM
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We have a friend of a friend that may be coming out to look at them today to give us a value. We have no use for the wood and he does so he might as well pay us for it like he offered. What we dont want is the wood sitting there rotting. DH works most days sun up till sun down and will not have time to deal with it properly nor do I with this very fussy newborn. Its easiest for us to just get its value and let him make the sugar shack. What we want more then anything is for them to be growing in the ground again. We dont have many trees on the property that arent chokecherry saplings and he had hoped to put a treestand back there. We would have never in a million years timbered them.
I think Im going to try and walk back there and measure again. I drove by the store today and saw a ton ton ton of firewook type stacks there. I dont know if that is from our trees or not but we have to take that into consideration when figuring value too. The smaller limbs would have made alot of firewood and that isnt cheap stuff. Funny that after seeing what the value is of the tree it actually seems more valuable as firewood, but firewood is expensive around here.

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Old 04/05/10, 02:09 PM
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Talking

Ok took a walk back there with some daylight this time.

Here is are two pictures of the red one from an angle that shows all the smaller branching too

I measured the red one and got one section 3 1/2 foot diameter that is 13 feet long, two sections with a 2 1/2 foot diameter, that measure lengths of, 11 feet, and 10 feet in lengths. There are four sections that are about 1 1/2diameter that are 4 feet, 10 feet, 12 feet, and 12 feet. Some of there have burls or whatnot where other smaller limbs were cut off if that matters.

The ash looking one is about 2 1/2 foot diameter , two sections, the first being 20 feet, the other is just 5 feet, all the smaller limbs are gone.

The other stump that is 2 1/2 feet wide is totally gone, so I cant measure it, that is the one suspected to look like a maple.

I also found two small trees cut down near bye that are 10 " and 12 " diameter.
I wonder if he was clearing this area to build the shack, might explain why he looked so terrified, that would have been a mess if he built it on our land

Here is the red one showing smaller limbs:
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Here the red one again with the 11 foot section closest and the 13 foot farthest, the 13 footer is the one closest to the stump. The other tree at the 1 clock position is actually from a stump that is on his own property, and the one behind that is the ash type one thats ours.
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One of the smaller trees tht was cut down and left laying:
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Old 04/05/10, 08:12 PM
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Well .... bad news red Oak is most valuable logs but they do not appear to be number 1 saw logs ...
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Old 04/06/10, 05:49 PM
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The friend of a friend came over. He used to work at a mill but doesnt anymore so he wasnt comfortable writing any values down on paper for evidence. H looked at them, measured them ect. The two smaller ones are ash and the bigger an oak. He said the oak was very good quality and was worth $1000 easy on the lower end. The other two trees together another $1000. We found the third tree on the guys property about 100 feet away. So with that value we will be calling out someone proffesional to either buy them from us or give us an actual value. This guy probably wont pay us $2000 just from our word. The guy that came over said there was significant damage to surrounding trees if he gives us a fight we can add that value too. We shall see!
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