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Old 04/04/10, 12:06 AM
 
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I like this reasoning..no need to buy a truck either..just go and use the schools maintenance truck. Heck, if your close enough just take an extension cord and plug in..no need to pay for your own electricity.....
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Old 04/04/10, 12:09 AM
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taxes are not theft. lots of people complain about schools taxes because they dont have kids, in the same respect taxes are collected for many other reasons that pay for services that many may never use but you make use of. I call it a wash!

I only wish it was used wiser then they wouldnt need to collect so much.
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Old 04/04/10, 12:11 AM
 
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Just burn it all in your grill. Or open the boxes in the store parking lot and dump the detritus in their trash cans.
I do burn garbage. But some stuff can't be burned or recycled, and is not wanted by others.
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Old 04/04/10, 12:20 AM
 
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taxes are not theft.
Taxes are theft. Unless someone desires to have money taken away.
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Old 04/04/10, 09:20 AM
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Yeah. So there.

Before I would take anything from anyone's personal pile of trash, I always stop and ask. You never know when the bike (or whatever) leaning up against the pile was inteded as garbage or if it's just where the kid happened to leave it.
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Yep and what a problem figgering that out is for the garbage man ...Thus the reason we will be adding the words "Keep AREA Clear For Four FEET"

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John, regarding your question about the hauling company "stealing" the money when there is unused space in the dumpster, I would imagine that it is spelled out in the contract that the consumer is either paying by weight or the volume of the dumpster. If it is by volume of the dumpster and they don't fill it, it isn't the fault of the company doing the hauling, so I don't think it qualifies as stealing.

To me, it's similar to insurance. You pay for the potential to use it. If you don't use the service, as much as you might like to think it's the case, the insurance company didn't steal your money.

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You don't pay for a "full load"
You pay to rent the dumpster, and to have it emptied on a regular basis.
The amount inside isn't a factor in the amount you pay
We dont charge a rent for the dumpster or cart.
Actually the deal is for the trash from ONE family or business to be picked up at certain intervals.
EVEN the customer cant give permission for someone else to add their trash.
We pick up a reasonable amont of extra with out changing the billing rate. for instance last Christmass one customer who is a 96 gallon cart customer parked a pickup truck FULL next to his cart and we picked that up. (just the trash not the truck!)
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I work at a large church and we have a dumpster and a cardboard recycling bin we always have peoples stuff dumped in the dumpster aggravating...I was immediately irritated when I read the post....then I got to thinking about how many times I have cleaned stuff out of the car at the gasstation or left packaging from products in the garbage cans at the store where I purchase something or at fast food resturants. Once I pay for something It is my responsibility to pay for disposing of it...
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The school people with these dumpsters pay for said dumpsters with money that was stolen from me. How come nobody here is against people stealing from me, but rage against me for supposedly stealing from others?
They didn't steal from you. Where in the world is your logic coming from? If you don't want to pay your current school taxes you should move to an area with less taxes. You'd have to move to a deserted island to get to a place without school taxes.
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Old 04/04/10, 11:57 AM
 
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Taxes are theft. Unless someone desires to have money taken away.
Do you drive on roads? Have you ever had children? Ever been a child? Have 911 available? You use governmental services.
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Old 04/04/10, 12:38 PM
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Taxes are theft. Unless someone desires to have money taken away.
Where does a taxing authority get it's power to tax?
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They didn't steal from you. Where in the world is your logic coming from? If you don't want to pay your current school taxes you should move to an area with less taxes. You'd have to move to a deserted island to get to a place without school taxes.
Yes the money is stolen from me because I don't want to pay for these institutions. My logic is coming from the common sense in my mind. It's plain and simple thievery.
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Old 04/04/10, 07:49 PM
 
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Where does a taxing authority get it's power to tax?
From the heathen people.
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Old 04/04/10, 07:54 PM
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Yes the money is stolen from me because I don't want to pay for these institutions.
Then why are you living in an area where they exist?

As I see it, you have two choices: Live in a civilized country and pay the price; or move somewhere without the amenities, and be free of the obligation to pay for such.
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You are free to have any opinion you wish. But, take action accordingly, and maybe you can express that to the judge, or while you're picking solidified crystals of sodium chloride from sensitive sections of your gluteus maximus.

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Old 04/04/10, 08:22 PM
 
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Then why are you living in an area where they exist?

As I see it, you have two choices: Live in a civilized country and pay the price; or move somewhere without the amenities, and be free of the obligation to pay for such.
And why are you living in an area where people exist who do not want these institutions? If you support stealing from people then perhaps you should move to Mexico or Cuba.
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Old 04/04/10, 09:23 PM
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This is getting good.

Last edited by salmonslayer; 04/05/10 at 12:47 AM.
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Old 04/05/10, 04:49 PM
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It's because of people who see nothing wrong with stealing that I have to keep a chain and lock on my commercial dumpster. It's because of people who see nothing wrong with stealing that I have locks on my home. It's because of people who see nothing wrong with stealing that I have to keep my garage and tools locked up. I wish those folks would get out and work for their own things instead of being jealous and stealing what I have worked for.
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Old 04/05/10, 05:23 PM
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Here, the dumpster contract is by weight. Various and sundry folks dumping their garbage in the dumpster costs the businesses more.
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So each businesses dumpster is weighed before its dumped? parden me, but I find that very far fetched and having owned and managed businesses in 4 states have never heard of that, not even sure how that would be possible.
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Old 04/06/10, 08:56 AM
 
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So each businesses dumpster is weighed before its dumped? parden me, but I find that very far fetched and having owned and managed businesses in 4 states have never heard of that, not even sure how that would be possible.
I would imagine it's possible in the same way our truck is weighed at the transfer station when we bring things to dump - legally. You drive onto the scale with your loaded truck, they weigh it, you dump your stuff and drive back over the scale with your empty truck. A simple subtraction gives the amount of refuse.

From the website for Hometown Dumpster Rental:
Roll off dumpster prices vary greatly from state to state and city to city. The main reasons for the variability is the difference in the costs associated with disposing of the waste in the local landfill and the taxes that are levied by some local municipalities.

Landfills charge dumpster services by the ton to dump their roll off containers. The cost per ton to dump in one city may be 3 to 4 times what it costs in a different city. If you live in an area with high landfill fees, your dumpster service prices will be higher.

The size of the dumpster also affects price. The larger the dumpster you rent, the higher the price. Larger, heavier roll off dumpsters cost more to haul and dump than smaller dumpsters, and that is reflected in the price.

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Old 04/06/10, 02:09 PM
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If it was a one time deal with a small amount of refuse to pitch, I'd go around and ask the proprietor if it was ok, until I found someone who gave me permission. Not to be preachy or judgmental, but I look at using someone else's dumpster without permission a little bit like stealing. They are the ones paying to have the dumpster there and for the space and convenience. Other people taking advantage are eliminating space that they might need. If you're hauling it to a dumpster, why not haul it to a dump and pay the $5.00 or whatever it takes? Just asking.
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