Spinoff from the plastics thread

[bloogrssgrl]

Originally Posted by arabian knight

Wel that is what makes America, America. People doing what they want, because of the freedoms we have in this country.

Yep - for better or worse.

[Common Tator]

Originally Posted by blooba

Thats because of stupidity. People buy printers on the pricetag. Lowest price sells the most. So they actually lose money on the printers some times just to make it back on the ink. Although with the refilling they are losing money thats why Kodak and others are trying to push for a more even markup in the printer market with their "lowest cost of ownership" ad campaign.

I learned that lesson. I was working from home and bought an all in one printer, copier, scanner, fax. It was inexpensive and had small ink cartridges. Immediately I started receiving unsolicited sales faxes that were black ink intensive. It didn't take too many of those to eat up my ink. I couldn't do anything to get the companies to quit sending faxes. I now have an all in one laser printer that can go several years on a toner cartridge and those are refilled and reused. I cancelled that phone line and only hook up the new one to a phone line if I need to send an outgoing fax.

I'm doing some major cleaning right now, and the old all in one will be going to the e-cycler.

[salmonslayer]

apparently people are so mortified at having white feet from wearing socks on the golf course, that they pony up hundreds of dollars for a foot tanner!

What a hoot, I had never heard of that before!!

Most new cheapo printers now have an "introductory" mini cartridge that lasts very short time so they force you to go out and buy at least one full size cartridge.

You know I had never thought of that before and didnt know that but now that you mention it my HP Printer was like that.

As for NASCAR, we live about 30 miles from a track where they have ARCA and midget races and its very enjoyable to go on a Saturday night and be a bubba. I dont know how to explain it, I like the smell of gasoline, the noise, the bumping and grinding....I cant even leave a lawn mower alone without tweaking it for more performance or sound. I have an old cheap White Outdoor Products self propelled mower we used in Alaska that I put a custom exhaust on just to get a fraction of speed and a better sound (I admit the speed part is probably psychological).

Personally I have always played sports, my wife played semi pro volleyball and basketball in her younger days, all of my kids played sports in school and most of them as adults still play sports in adult leagues and you are either a sports person or you arent. We just choose to get our tans the natural way.

[texican]

Originally Posted by Beeman

If you really want to see and try and understand the wasteful mentality of our society try and explain tanning beds and the electricity they use. The best part is they have tanning salons with a dozen tanning beds and then the AC going full blast.

Unfortunately, we live in a free society, where one can do pretty much whatever they want... even to the point of running an Air Conditioner!

Well, I should have said we use to... who knows what tptb will decide to regulate next? I think we should BAN Air Conditioners! Reckon how well that'd go over... Well, if I were your insane president, I might just have to implement such a program.

We do live in a capitalist based system. I'm free to go to Home Depot, buy up 100 pallets of lumber and burn them in a pile, if I wish. It would be a hideous waste of resources, but that's my right and privelege.

We start stopping people from doing something, because we think it's wasteful, beware, it's a dark and ugly road to travel on. {See above thought about banning a/c's} . I might also ban shoes, mass transportation, even hair... I have none on top of my head, why should others... growing it, washing it, fixing it, grooming it, etc., is a hideous waste of resources... Everyone gets shaved once a week... by a surly unwashed unshoed sumo wrestler, with a dull blade...

Be good!

[HermitJohn]

Originally Posted by texican

We do live in a capitalist based system. I'm free to go to Home Depot, buy up 100 pallets of lumber and burn them in a pile, if I wish. It would be a hideous waste of resources, but that's my right and privelege.

We start stopping people from doing something, because we think it's wasteful, beware, it's a dark and ugly road to travel on. {See above thought about banning a/c's} . I might also ban shoes, mass transportation, even hair... I have none on top of my head, why should others... growing it, washing it, fixing it, grooming it, etc., is a hideous waste of resources... Everyone gets shaved once a week... by a surly unwashed unshoed sumo wrestler, with a dull blade...

Be good!

The problem with the capitalist model as you describe it is that it falsely assumes we have infinite resources and infinite space to support an ever expanding human population. Capitalism requires growth of production (which requires more resources) and growth of demand (either existing population buying ever more stuff or the exponential expansion of number of consumers). Big news flash, we live on a finite planet with finite resources. Unless you have a fleet of Ferengi star ships ready to expand Earth trade to many more planets, then Houston, we have a problem.

[arabian knight]

And that is why recycling of plastic and other things is working. New things are always coming out. There is a show on the channel Green Planet, called "The Future Of Food" very soon even the package the food is wrapped in will be eatable, science will bring us back into the forefront again.
That is why going back to the moon and eventually unto Mars is important, for the news things that come out of the space program. We have plenty of resources for many years to come 150 to 200 on oil alone, and by that time science will have come up with all sort of great things for the good of people.

[Heritagefarm]

I have to clue how tanning beds have anything to do with it....