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Old 03/21/10, 03:06 PM
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Interesting thoughts on the dust bowl, dry climes and sustainability.

I firmly believe (for what that's worth) that intense composting/soil husbandry/horticulture can heal a climate.
The arid climate I grew up in (In Caliornia) was never broken, though I suspect that overpopulation has broken it since then.

The reason that I know it was not broken is because many of the plants that did so well there would simply die in most other areas. Many of the plants-like the redwoods- have taken an unthinkable lengh of time to adapt to those conditions.

It was a full and rich ecosystem, and it was a healthy one.

A few of the stranger tidbits: California is meant to burn. Yep. The plants do better and the animals do better and this is how it should be. That is, by the way, why the fire laws are so strict: peoples homes will burn if there is a fire and we cannot aford that. And California is really intended to have fires every few years.

A few things that make California so flammible: much of the brush gets woody and dry when it is old. It then provides BAD forage as it is not tender enough to be nourishing but it burns faster than any midwestern bush I ever saw.

The grass grows rapidly when it is wet out, it goes to seed, and it then goes dormant until the next winter. When dormant ALSO burns in the blink of an eye.

The larger Redwoods are not usually hurt by fire, though the seedlings often are. Redwod bark is fire resistand in the extreme, and the wood does not burn as easily as most others. Redwoods are interesting, by the way. The needles on those trees are meant to condense the morning fog from the ocean and then drip it on their roots: if they are by the ocean at all they will water themselves! This is another way that they are adapted to an arid climate. Redwood trees have had a long time to adapt: they are OLD!!!!!!!!!!

Lastly, there is another type of tree on the west coast-the name escapes me at the moment- that NEEDS fire to reproduce. Without fire that species of tree would die out.

After a fire the one tree seeds will sprout (the one that relies on fire), the Redwoods are not bothered, the brush is burned back and good sprouts come out and make good forage for the animals, the half-dead grass dies and the younger grass takes over, and life goes on.

Some arid climates really ARE the result of human abuse, but some areas are MEANT to be arid, and are healthier if they are so.

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Mama Crow, as a spin-off from this thread, I started one on the same topic at the Permaculture Forum (run by Paul Wheaton, a member here). You might like to take a look at that, too: http://www.permies.com/permaculture-...extreme-desert

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Old 03/21/10, 05:29 PM
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Terri,that sounds very much like Australia,fire is in one way healthy for the environment...well maybe not the human one.

It was amazing to us to see the paddocks with not one blade of grass left in the middle of summer,but come the winter rains they would be knee high we were told.
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Id try water witching to see what showed up, or down. Remember that oasis comes from somewhere down there. If u found a vein or 2. You might be able to drive a sand point pretty cheaply to get water.
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I'd think you'd have to fence the property to keep the cows out. Having a herd of longhorns tromping over your homestead is not conducive to succeeding in your goals.
About the pigs in the garden, they'll search out all the delicious human waste and consume it. Guess then they'll add their own poo.
I'd be worried about runs of drought years personally.
Also, for the garden, use a deep mulch and keep it mulched yr round. It will conserve moisture and break down, adding organic material to the soil...um, sand. I know you'd have to buy mulch material in, but it's invaluable in that kind of gardening if you can swing it.
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Old 05/21/11, 02:52 AM
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Thank you for your PM, freya .. otherwise, I would not have seen this old thread.

No, I did not move there.

Big Bend ... Lajitas ... Terlingua ... the whole area will always be in my blood ... always.

And, who knows what the future holds.

I still maintain close communication with my friends there, and the area has always been a family retreat location ... so I know I will visit as often as I can, as I always have in the past.

Right now, I am having a temporary "simple living adventure" in the Missouri Ozarks.

I need to change my HT username back to Mama Crow.

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