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01/08/14, 01:10 PM
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FR - I need to know the definition of MASTERS you gave somewhere deep within this thread. With 100 pages, that is too many to reread just for the sake of finding your humor. The search feature doesn't help...or maybe I don't know how to use it properly.
Can you remember?
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01/08/14, 04:31 PM
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Let's resume the master/slave discussion in the thread I started this a.m. in current events..."Who owns who ?"
Maybe even give the links a short....or long...perusal and maybe even find what would be a representation of my answer.
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01/09/14, 02:35 AM
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Let's resume the master/slave discussion in the thread I started this a.m. in current events..."Who owns who ?"
Maybe even give the links a short....or long...perusal and maybe even find what would be a representation of my answer. 
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No, what I am asking about is in Extreme Composting, you made a very funny joke about a Master's degree as it pertains to composting. I said a PhD meant piled higher and deeper, and you responded with something far better for Masters.
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01/09/14, 07:00 AM
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No, what I am asking about is in Extreme Composting, you made a very funny joke about a Master's degree as it pertains to composting. I said a PhD meant piled higher and deeper, and you responded with something far better for Masters.
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......and I suppose Masters is "mix and stack to encourage rotting, stupid" ?
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01/09/14, 08:47 AM
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Ohhhhhhh.
Yeah.
That.
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01/12/14, 05:07 PM
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I found this forum over a year ago when doing a search on composting. I read it and followed the instructions, which resulted in ALOT of really great compost. So what to do with it? I built a hoophouse and grew alot of vegetables.
Thanks Forerunner, you have cleared the fog, driven away the wives tales and given me some entertaining reading. And since I know that you like pitchures, here is some of my garden this year.

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not to change subject but what varieties to toms grow that tall?
thanks
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01/12/14, 05:13 PM
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Poverty can give his answer when he gets here.....
.....my heirloom Brandywines and Mortgage Lifters grow that tall pretty easily.
I trellis up four-six feet tall, and am afraid of what might happen if I go any higher.
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01/12/14, 08:30 PM
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I saw a hoop house that UF had set up in north/central Florida. They did a test on indeterminate tomatoes and bell peppers. In both cases, they reached the roughly 12' ceiling, IIRC, still producing until the cold did them in in late Nov. The extension agent said they probably could have gotten another month out of them, but the students were tired of having to climb ladders to harvest and were ready to let them die.
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01/12/14, 10:17 PM
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I still have some producing that are over 8' tall. Not sure of the variety.
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01/12/14, 11:12 PM
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There are 3 tomato varieties which I've grown that will easily go to 15' and look for more. They are Alicante, Hellfrucht, and Moneymaker. All 3 of those produce a lot of fruit close to the main vine. A friend had an 8' trellis and used to get Hellfrucht plants from me. They would go to the top, back down the other side to the ground, and start back up. Under good conditions and depending upon the strain, Yellow Pear will also do 15'.
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01/13/14, 06:30 PM
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thanks everyone
I will need to study up on how to tie up/ trellis them correctly
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01/13/14, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Forerunner
Poverty can give his answer when he gets here.....
.....my heirloom Brandywines and Mortgage Lifters grow that tall pretty easily.
I trellis up four-six feet tall, and am afraid of what might happen if I go any higher.
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I cage my maters which usually grow over the top of a 6 ft cage every year. So far variety hasn't mattered. My cages are 6 inch concrete reinforcement wire 6 ft wide.
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01/15/14, 07:40 AM
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I use the Florida Weave method to tie my maters up. I weave up to about 8 ft. (that is as high as I can reach without a ladder) then let them grow back down to the ground.
Hoophouses really seem to enhance the growth of some varieties of maters.
The Black Krim and Brandywines turned into a complete jungle.
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01/16/14, 12:45 PM
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Another homesteader inspired - thanks FR! This is a 5x10 foot bed, about a year into filling now. Egg shells, banana peels, apple corings and coffee grounds mostly, plus now dried leaves. Any other kitchen waste and some weeds here and there. I don't think it's doing much as it's cold. But we're trying!
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01/16/14, 01:03 PM
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Need volume to heat up. Also sounds like you need more nitrogen if you have a lot of leaves and weeds. Have any manure sources nearby?
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01/16/14, 01:43 PM
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dls-we have chickens! Goats two but the labor required to separate the goat poo-ies from the sand they fall on is not worth it. Chickens though, no problem there.
N from greens then? Of course it's winter - I'm thinking come Spring we may be able to heat it up a bit......
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01/17/14, 06:54 AM
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My neighbor put up a light on a pole that comes on at night on our property line. Its just over the fence from my compost pile area so now I can visit all my little microbe friends at night without using a flashlight. Don't have to wait until the next day to carry them any fresh rejects from the kitchen.
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01/17/14, 07:43 AM
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Ya'll are makin' me tear up, here........
Compost-inspired homesteaders and composters with night lights just get me right...*thumps chest with emotion*
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01/17/14, 10:26 AM
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Quote:
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My neighbor put up a light on a pole that comes on at night on our property line. Its just over the fence from my compost pile area so now I can visit all my little microbe friends at night without using a flashlight. Don't have to wait until the next day to carry them any fresh rejects from the kitchen.
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Love your positive attitude! I'd be all cranky b/c I hate those lights, but you are pleased to be able to feed your micro-herd at all hours!
Homesteader, another source of nitrogen is urine. Any species will do.
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01/17/14, 11:53 AM
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Absolutely, Pony.
It's all about the ritual Commune.........
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