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Old 02/06/10, 06:18 PM
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oh yarrow/susie I'm glad it turned out well. What did the vet say about everything you did when you took her in?
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Old 02/06/10, 08:18 PM
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we dehorn cows, casterate pigs ,horses, make capons,If I am out & a hog hooks ME or my dogs, I sew it up & pop me & the dog with penacillen. I have sewn ears back on & tucked intestines back in on hunting dogs a few times. You can set broken limbs just as good (And what I have seen BETTER than quite a few Vets.)
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Old 02/06/10, 11:01 PM
 
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The ironic thing is that if he had just shot the dog and dumped it then he wouldn't be in all this trouble.
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Old 02/07/10, 06:58 AM
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Wow.

I gave my dog stitches when he cut his leg. It was 1 am when he came home.

I followed up with the vet the following Monday and he said I did a fine job on those three stitches. We gave him some antibotics and he was fine.

I can not express how furious I would be if some government official that probably doesn't even have animals pressed charges on me. Most of the people passing laws have no clue what the subject is they are passing laws about.
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Old 02/07/10, 09:36 AM
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Hi

Maybe you might want to put a small bottle of alum in the first aid pack. if you put it directly on an spurting artery it can cause clotting quickly slowing or stopping the bleeding. I had to use this method on a gelding who got his hind hock entwined in rusty barbed wire that cinched tightly, nearly nothing but wire and bone, blood squirting 4 ft. into the air. took nearly a whole bottle, 3 or 4 oz. for canning pickles, just dumped a pile in a cotton rag and held it tight as possible, a couple times. the vet said without it he would have bled to death without it. I had just read about alums blood clotting abilities a few weeks before and somehow it stuck in my brain. seen where someone thought the aspca was a gov. agency, no its a private org, created in NY back near 1866 or so, they do make contracts with city and other agencies though. kinda like the big brother of animals, they do alot of good things, then again they have a few nuts trying to control a few things that shouldn't be in my opinion, like the bill they tried to get passed in NJ to make it illegal to use rabbit or horse for food. best wishes, ray
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Old 02/07/10, 09:53 AM
 
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LGD's are state dependant, in ct there considered pets...

again, not something i nessicarily agree with (but again i wouldnt want average joe operating on his pet either, and i wouldnt do anything SURGICAL that required anesthesia with any of my pets, emergency first aid is one thing, but say spaying a dog for example is a no no...)

but it is something to be aware of.
animal cruelty laws are in place for a reason...its because some people who havent a clue what there doing try and do this stuff (ie at home ear crops leading to massive infections) and its best to be aware of those laws, especially in New England where those rules and regs tend to be very much so enforced whereas they may not be so much in a more rural area...

i also think theres a huge difference between emergency first aid (ie stitching a wound, splinting a borken limb ect) and actual SURGERY...
Yarrow, MWG, the big differnce here is you sought veterinary attention after "applying' first aid, you took care of an imidiate threat, stitched then at first opportunity took your dog to the vet where the wound was checked, and you were given antibiotics for the dog...

plus in those cases it was medically nessicary to apply said first aid...

in this case the cyst aparently wasnt causing pain, according to the guy some discomfort but ive delt with many cycsts in my life and unless there infected there just minor annoyances...
it wasnt first aid, it wasnt an emergency and the guy didnt seek veterinary assistance untill the wound became infected (another local printing has it that a neighbor reported the dog seemed to be oozing froma wound and in a great deal of pain, which means the guy didnt even seek vet attention after the wound got infected untill he got reported...)

it wasnt a case of, omg its an emergency im an hour away from a vet and my dogs pouring blood...
it was absolutly unnessicary (and there are funds in place and ways to wrok around vet fees for when money is an issue...im disabled and currently unemployed with no unemployment payments comming in, and i have deals going with 3 local vets that i can work to pay off any bills, i simply clean kennels for a couple of weeks and tada, no more bill...)
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Old 02/07/10, 11:07 AM
 
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Foxy,
I think you are on a slippery slope. I've docked tails and done dew claws also. That was elective surgery. I can justify to myself it not being elective by saying they were working dogs and tail or dew claw injuries are common, blah, blah. The reality is that the common person would say it is medically unnecessary and that it IS surgery -- see Europe for an example of group think on this subject.

I just don't think a 1/2" surface cut on an extremity is comparable to spaying.

He was reported by a lab tech that inspected the dog when the owner was getting blood work done. I don't think you can draw a conclusion on the state of the infection without some evidence. I certainly didn't see any evidence in the video that there was any serious surgery necessary the second time around.

Here's a quote from the good doctor here, "If he had called me, I probably would have told the guy, 'Here's $100. Get it taken care of properly.' " Slightly arrogant or genuine? You decide.
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