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01/22/10, 04:52 PM
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The Eskimos had the right idea. Develop a manner of living that very, very few on the planet could begin to sustain, and that no one else would want to. Then become so proficient at that lifestyle that you thrive.
Conversely, the Apaches had the same idea, just the opposite weather conditions and not quite the isolationist extreme.
For me, for now, I am compelled to bloom where I am planted, until circumstances make it clear that I am to facilitate a change.
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01/22/10, 06:18 PM
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if you've got $5 mil in change laying around I saw a cattle farm in missouri. think it was 5000 or so acres.
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01/22/10, 06:22 PM
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In my dreams, a cabin out in the woods. In reality, a small town in the country. (Hey, I have to work.)
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01/22/10, 07:44 PM
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We have 20 ac. Still live in the 'burbs but may get to the land one of these days.
DH says it's too far away. We named it "2 Far", it's 60 mi.
It's 7 miles from a small town w/supermarkets. Restaurants. Wallyworld. But it seems waaaay out. I like that.
Would rather it were 40 ac, tho.
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01/22/10, 07:55 PM
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Just wondering if the answers would be the same if there was no internet access? Its nice having all the virtual neighbors on this site
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01/22/10, 07:56 PM
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I wouldn't mind living 60 miles to the nearest town or 10 miles from the nearest neighbor, but never in the desert. Blech! LOL I prefer grass and trees and maybe mountains. As it sits, we live 1/2 mile from the nearest neighbor and 8 miles from the nearest town and it has nothing. An hour from the closest town that has anything. But there are times, like when you realize you're missing an ingredient that a store right across the road is nice. LOL
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01/23/10, 12:14 AM
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Just wondering if the answers would be the same if there was no internet access? Its nice having all the virtual neighbors on this site 
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Satellite takes care of that  it's not perfect but it works pretty good
Hubby and I have different ideas on how far is too far. I've lived in lots of situations over the years, having been born with hippie parents living in the woods (think a mile hike through the woods, from where we parked the truck, with provisions in a wheelbarrow, after a very long drive up longing roads). He doesn't ever want to be more than 20 minutes from a hardware store, we're about 15 minutes now and that is pushing the limits. Really though, it works out pretty darn good, I like to go to town (sometimes too much) and it's nice to have some amenities reasonably close. Plus the kids are very active in 4H, FFA, Co-Op classes, and Dace. Once though I saw this 200 acre parcel with a house/barn right smack in the middle, all set up off grid, hubby just laughed at me.
Does anyone remember "The Wilderness Family", think it might have first shown on TV? I really don't remember but I just found the movie at the library and checked it out. I LOVED that show as a kid, can't wait to show it to the kids.
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01/23/10, 01:22 AM
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OMGoodness yes, yes, yes! I remember that show! I loved it, too ... and Grizzly Adams ... and you just helped me to remember I had a set of homesteading family dolls ... oh, shoot, what were they called?
Thank you so much for the memories ... but this is going to drive me crazy now.
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01/23/10, 01:29 AM
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THE SUNSHINE FAMILY!!!!
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01/23/10, 10:51 AM
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Just wondering if the answers would be the same if there was no internet access? Its nice having all the virtual neighbors on this site 
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Yes, for us. We have to drive to town for net. I don't think I'd get nearly as much done if we had net.
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01/23/10, 01:12 PM
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Oh, so cool Mama Crow! LOVE the dolls!!!
How could I have forgotten Grizzly Adams! Of course, loved that show too.
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01/24/10, 04:29 PM
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i think for me id like to be about an hour away from a larger town/small city, i like having a zoo, and a walmart within an hours drive one way...
but in terms of neighbors, id like to know there close enough that in an emergency theres someone i can call, but not so close that i can see/hear them on a regular basis.
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01/24/10, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Forerunner
The Eskimos had the right idea. Develop a manner of living that very, very few on the planet could begin to sustain, and that no one else would want to. Then become so proficient at that lifestyle that you thrive.
Conversely, the Apaches had the same idea, just the opposite weather conditions and not quite the isolationist extreme.
For me, for now, I am compelled to bloom where I am planted, until circumstances make it clear that I am to facilitate a change.
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Unfortunately, most folks outside AK don't read the old stories about leaving old women & others who couldn't contribute at the times of FAMINE due to poor game or plant years.
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01/24/10, 09:40 PM
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We have a 1/4 mile of road frontage on two roads but our house is close to the road. One neighbor is right across from our garden and was a real pain for six years. Then two years ago he stopped harrassing us and we forget he is there.The other close house is empty and for sale.
On a road bordering the ocean there used to be one house but now there are twelve and more being built. All but one are owned by foreigners who only come here in the summer. We can see other houses but they are not near us.
Our problem is our farm borders two roads and has a view of the other two. So no matter where we are on our property we are visible to others. It is like being on TV with someone always watching when we are outside. My husband doesn't mind all the people who stop to watch him work with the horse but I mind! I like to be alone so much so I stay in the house when cars drive in the yard.If people don't come to the door; I don't go out to see what they want.
I would gladly move out of sight of everyone if I could.I am not anti- social but like privacy, nature and animals. I am also a writer and need solitude to think.We are 9 miles from town and 3 miles from a village store. That is alright as I have to walk or ride a bike to get there. I'm 63 now and wouldn't want to have to bike further!
We are going to plant trees on some our farm to make it more private. I hope we live long enough to see them grow up!
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01/24/10, 11:21 PM
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I've had an interesting evolution of isolated lifestyles. Grew up homeschooled on 175 acres. There were about 2 kids in my age range that I knew and would make a point of seeing on weekends throughout that period.
Then my parents decided to move, put me in public school, and that's when the problems started. Eating disorders, depression, anxiety, insomnia, stress...until I dropped out and went on my own way.
I vacillated wildly from isolation to really, really URBAN living. (Alaska to NYC)
Now I live in a small town on a tiny lot surrounded closely by people I consider family...and rapidly it is becoming too much. This summer I am trying out the next step back from society--a job as the only bartender in Chicken, AK which consists of a handfull of miners in the summer, and a few year round dog mushing and trap lining types.
It's remote. No power. No running water. No cell service. Better not try to drive there without a couple of spares in the back of the truck kind of place.
Who knows, may find out that's just right for a while. May find out it's a little too isolated. Either way, I fully intending on knowing what I can handle before I invest in land that would necessitate that lifestyle. Perhaps fewer farms would be passed from owner to owner as city-folks succumbed to the idyll if they tried it out first.
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01/25/10, 10:19 AM
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The Kerguelen Islands (pronounced /ˈkɜrɡələn, kərˈɡeɪlən/;[1] in French commonly Îles Kerguelen or Archipel de Kerguelen but officially Archipel des Kerguelen or Archipel Kerguelen, pronounced: [kɛʁɡelɛn]), also known as Desolation Island, are a group of islands in the southern Indian Ocean. The islands are a territory of France. There are no indigenous inhabitants,
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PS I would HAVE to have a gun totin, bear shootin, snake scarin, fire buildin, strong and scruffy man by my side though!!!!
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LOL well your in the right place on this forum!
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I like to be able to look 3-4 miles in either direction and see evidence of my neighbors even if it's only smoke.
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Im kinda the opposite I dont mind people around as long as I dont know they are there.
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"Why is isolated land isolated?" Much "isolated land" is that way because it is typically not fit for human inhabitation.
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Or it just could be owned by a government that doesnt want to allow people on it. As for whats fit land for human habitation That depends onthe humans, look atthe lands the Inuit and native Autrailians prefer.
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I always had a dreamed of owning a couple thousand acres with a working farm in the middle and away from human man made noise. .
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Im 20 miles or more from the interstate and can hear it sometimes , in my travels Ive noticed If I have a line of sight to a railroad or interstate I can hear them even if they are over 100 miles away.
I like my place 120 acres on a through road....that only gets a few cars a week most of which I know. My neighbors are great we get along but they dont bug me much and I seldom bug them...anymore.
From My house on the bluff top I can see most of my land in one large field below me. But sincenthe edges of it are timber I can see VERY LITTLE of my neighbors, seldom even smoke in the distance. I know those tree tops in the distanceare not mine but I dont see my neighbors in them!
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01/25/10, 01:04 PM
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Too many fat quarters...
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Im 20 miles or more from the interstate and can hear it sometimes , in my travels Ive noticed If I have a line of sight to a railroad or interstate I can hear them even if they are over 100 miles away.
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How flat and treeless does that have to be?!?
Even in western Kansas we aren't flat enough to have a line of sight to something 100 miles away...
We used to live about 12 miles from the railroad. Almost no trees, but enough hills you certainly couldn't see it... We could hear the whistle when the wind was right and we were standing on a hill. Otherwise you'd never know it was there.
I've never lived less than 80 miles from an interstate, though, so I don't have any experience there...
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01/25/10, 02:41 PM
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That part of Texas is has beautiful sunsets that are welcome to anyone working outside in the heat. I recently appraised and sold a large forclosed tract in the region and price per acre seems low until you investigate the reasons. CF and others have made good points. Rough country and little water or rainfall. Figure about 40 acres average to carry a cow/calf unit. This area is renowned as the place where the last Great bears and Jaguar roamed Texas. Lots of mountain lions still. The deadly threats now seem to cross the border packing 9MMs and AK-47s and looking for isolated homestead ranches to raid.
There is a written story from an old Cumby,Texas cowboy that went to the Big Bend to gather mustangs during the depression. His saddle horse picked up something in his shoe while working down a rough ridge to a valley water hole. When he cleaned the hoof, the object wedged in the shoe was a lump of pure soft gold. He searched, but never found the source. My advice is don't buy your land there, but if you do, be sure to get mineral rights...Glen
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01/25/10, 02:49 PM
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I've always dreamt of living in the Australian Outback.... where people fly their planes to get to the nearest neighbor's house. Does that answer your question?
I couldn't get "too" isolated.... but DH and the rugrats require regular non-family interaction and frequent visits to the nearest electronics store, so I've contented myself with living in the middle of southern Manitoba farm country. It's pretty close
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