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01/08/10, 10:44 AM
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Do you know anyone who has a surveyor wheel? Most contractor and farmers do and the USDA office does too. It's like a bicycle wheel that is calibrated to measure feet by the number of turns of the wheel. Just set it and walk the parimeter and you will have your measurement. Using the wheel will take into account the distance where the land may go up hill and down. You're looking at how much fence to buy, correct?
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01/08/10, 10:48 AM
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You guys are so funny! More than a dozen ways to measure an acre and most of them confusing! It's like Math Hell with the best of intentions
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Oh I agree - looking it up online if possible, or at the court house will work a lot easier than our confusing math formulas.
If we can just get the right set of numbers tho, then we can figure it out. If we can know exactly how long those segments are, or at least most of them, then we can figure all sorts of things out for the person.
Just need to know the right data. Walking it off would be the right way, by rope or by a measuring wheel.
If we get the numbers, we can double check that it matches the amount of acrs, so that the answer is reasonably right.
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01/08/10, 11:02 AM
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Well, deedrunner.exe will let you calculate the acreage based on the meets and bounds of your property deed.
Othwise, you do a little geometry with that shape. Measure the rectangle on the right, then measure the triangle (or two right angle triangles) on the left. A right triangle is convenient, as the volume is 1/2 of what a square would be.
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01/08/10, 11:17 AM
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Cabin I have used that second site quite alot when trying to figure the whole easement mess. Know it well  Are the numbers I need in this set :
BEG E4 COR S8D41'W 242' N255'W 451.5' N268'E 799.55' N790'E 70' S0D4'W 1146.37' M/L TO BEG
So if I decifer it correctly beginning in the East corner you go 242 feet to somewhere then 451 feet, then 799 feet and then 1146 feet back to the beginning corner? Or did I read that totally wrong?
Yes I am trying to figure this for fencing. No thanks to the geometry, that an algebra made me loose interest in math
Thanks for the help and ideas.
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01/08/10, 11:24 AM
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..........As stated 1 acre = 43,560 sq. feet ! 7 x 43,560 = 304,920 !
..........Now take the Sq. Root of 304,920 = 552.19561 feet on each side
..........552.19561 x 552.19561 = 304,920 ! , fordy
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01/08/10, 11:42 AM
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Cabin I have used that second site quite alot when trying to figure the whole easement mess. Know it well  Are the numbers I need in this set :
BEG E4 COR S8D41'W 242' N255'W 451.5' N268'E 799.55' N790'E 70' S0D4'W 1146.37' M/L TO BEG
So if I decifer it correctly beginning in the East corner you go 242 feet to somewhere then 451 feet, then 799 feet and then 1146 feet back to the beginning corner? Or did I read that totally wrong?
Yes I am trying to figure this for fencing. No thanks to the geometry, that an algebra made me loose interest in math
Thanks for the help and ideas.
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If all you are worried about is fencing then just add all the numbers together, 2638 ft or just under 1/2 mile.
The stuff before the feet numbers are just the angles the property line takes from that point.
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Cabin I have used that second site quite alot when trying to figure the whole easement mess. Know it well  Are the numbers I need in this set :
BEG E4 COR S8D41'W 242' N255'W 451.5' N268'E 799.55' N790'E 70' S0D4'W 1146.37' M/L TO BEG
So if I decifer it correctly beginning in the East corner you go 242 feet to somewhere then 451 feet, then 799 feet and then 1146 feet back to the beginning corner? Or did I read that totally wrong?
Yes I am trying to figure this for fencing. No thanks to the geometry, that an algebra made me loose interest in math
Thanks for the help and ideas.
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You missed one side of your 5 sided property
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01/08/10, 12:37 PM
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01/08/10, 02:00 PM
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You only get partial credit, you failed to include the area enclosed.
What program did you use to draw it? I have wanted a SIMPLE drawing program which would let me draw a line at a set angle.
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01/08/10, 02:40 PM
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You only get partial credit, you failed to include the area enclosed.
What program did you use to draw it? I have wanted a SIMPLE drawing program which would let me draw a line at a set angle.
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I didn't draw it, the OP (thaiblue12) drew it in Post #17. I just added the dimensions from the metes and bounds property description.
She said she needed the dimensions for fencing, so the acreage is immaterial.
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I think my head just exploded.
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01/08/10, 02:46 PM
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I just used "Paint" which is in the accessories folder, at least it is on my computer.
Thank you for noticing I forgot the 70 feet to the North.
Thanks Cabin for the layout.
So I will get 2750 feet of the wire and that will give me an extra 41 feet for any odd things I might have to go around or over.
Carolyn I feel the same way about math, lol
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01/08/10, 02:51 PM
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Cabin I have used that second site quite alot when trying to figure the whole easement mess. Know it well  Are the numbers I need in this set :
BEG E4 COR S8D41'W 242' N255'W 451.5' N268'E 799.55' N790'E 70' S0D4'W 1146.37' M/L TO BEG
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I believe you left out some info from your legal description. I believe it should it read:
Beginning at the east corner:
South 8º41' West - 242 ft
North 25º5' West - 451.5 ft
North 26º8' East - 799.55 ft
North 79º0' East - 70 ft
South 0º4' West - 1146.37 ft (more or less) to the beginning
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.................When I was still putting up fence I'd enjoy doing a job about this size if there was a clean fence line and very little rock ! Lots of work but very rewarding . , fordy
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01/08/10, 11:27 PM
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Come on over Fordy  No real rocks to speak of and not much in the way, lol.
Cabin that site is a pain in the rear. It would not let me copy and paste the entire thing so I did it in sections making sure I put them in order. Might have missed a few numbers but at least I have the perimeter now.
Thanks again all.
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01/09/10, 11:12 AM
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I didn't draw it, the OP (thaiblue12) drew it in Post #17. I just added the dimensions from the metes and bounds property description.
She said she needed the dimensions for fencing, so the acreage is immaterial.
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I guess I haven't got my "go to the first unread msg" problem fixed. I never saw the post.
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01/09/10, 11:19 AM
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The easy way is to go to the Farm Service Agency located in your county seat and have them figure it for you. In the past they used a planimeter on an aerial map. Now they use geographical information software on a computer. Either way they can tell you either the area or the perimeter measurement in a few minutes no matter how convoluted the boundary.
In many cases they already have the acreage figured out.
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You're all making it harder than necessary. 1/4 acre is approx 50 x 200 x 50 x 200, for a boundary of 500 feet. If the radio fence is the kind with the burried wire all you need to do is measure the distance of the boundary for where you intend to keep the dog. Surveyors measurements are not accurate for actual distances when you have to account for slopes. Surveyors use linear measurements which are straight across. The slope is calculated but not in relation to the distance recorded on a deed.
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01/09/10, 08:49 PM
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so,,,one of my more inventive friends used the bottom strand of his high tensile fence as the antenna wire (the one put underground with these little kits). his dog had roam of a pasture that enclosed around 70 ac...
no,,he isolated the bottom strand from the rest...the only current it carried was the radio signal from the dog fence box.
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