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01/03/10, 11:01 AM
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Very neat. I will be looking for it when it's out.
But, does Mason need a visa? I'm pretty sure with your travels he has a current passport.
I'm just thinking logistics.
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01/03/10, 11:04 AM
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This whole "4 Hour Work Week" thing sounds very interesting. I guess I'm one of the people others outsource to, so I think this concept is particular awesome. I started my business as a virtual admin assistant 6 years ago and have been quite fortunate to have been able to keep some business going even through the economic downturn. I've been thinking I need to diversify more though, and this whole concept sounds like it might be just the ticket.
So thank you Chuck for the link, it has given me something to work with!!!
ETA - I'm not into hero worship, but I DO recognize when someone has found a path that leads to an outcome *I* would like to experience, and I'd like to learn from that. Just wanted to clarify
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01/03/10, 11:12 AM
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Done! :-)
What a great oppurtunity! I am sure your son would love it. I know my 12yr old would!
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01/03/10, 11:20 AM
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I just dont have the hero worship going on here that a lot of you do. And I don't have to.
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I would hate to live life so suspicious of the motivations of others, Shygal. I'm sorry for whatever happened to you that makes you believe that others can't possibly have any motivation beyond their own self-interest.
Chuck's involvement in this contest, and his directing some of his contacts over there helped the author market his book. It may (or may not) help Chuck get his kid to Malta. It DID help me find a resource I was otherwise unaware of. That resource might help my DH and I in our quest for more work/life balance. None of that takes anything away from you, or from anyone else.
And just to be clear, I'd be just as happy, and would have reacted in exactly the same way, had the link and the contest vote request come from anyone on this board, because the value, to me, was the information it gave me about the book.
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01/03/10, 11:28 AM
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Chuck, I'm curious about exactly what you are looking for. Are you going to focus on the area where the ship was anchored and the cargo jettisoned, or the area where the ship ran aground and broke apart? Were the anchors of the day made of iron, or something else? Was grain carried in sacks, or jars?
The anthropologist in me has all kinds of questions!
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The four anchors have been found - they are made of lead, which does not corrode in the sea. We'll be focusing on the area around the reef where the ship would have broken apart, to see if we can find any more evidence of the wreck.
The wood and grain would have disappeared long ago, but there may still be bits and pieces of metal from the ship (it was a very large ship for its day, with crew and passengers of almost 300 people).
We will also be interviewing the people who found the four anchors, along with experts in sea storms, etc to determine as close as possible the exact location of the wreck.
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01/03/10, 11:45 AM
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Very neat. I will be looking for it when it's out.
But, does Mason need a visa? I'm pretty sure with your travels he has a current passport.
I'm just thinking logistics.
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Visas aren't necessary, and yes, Mason has a passport. If he gets to go, I'm considering letting him get SCUBA certified while we are there. He's been wanting to do that ever since he got to go along on my last dive expedition on the Island of Coiba in 2007.
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01/03/10, 11:45 AM
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I don't imagine the soldiers would have tried to swim with their weapons. Were Roman swords and armor of the day iron or bronze?
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He was just a little guy then. This is him looking at a 16-foot salt-water croc.

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I don't imagine the soldiers would have tried to swim with their weapons. Were Roman swords and armor of the day iron or bronze?
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Mostly iron, I think. Which would not have survived 2000 years of seawater. At least not well.
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01/03/10, 11:52 AM
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When will the winner be announced?
What a 'school' for Mason. He'd learn more in a day doing this and all the work around it, than sitting in any school for days/years.
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01/03/10, 11:57 AM
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Mostly iron, I think. Which would not have survived 2000 years of seawater. At least not well.
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Yeah, I know that's why I asked. They may have had ivory handles or brass hilts though.
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Thank you Arabian Knight I was able to follow the link and voted for Chuck.
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01/03/10, 01:21 PM
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Chuck,
Have you considered adding informaton about this four hour work week book to the store sub board here?
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01/03/10, 04:21 PM
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I would hate to live life so suspicious of the motivations of others, Shygal. I'm sorry for whatever happened to you that makes you believe that others can't possibly have any motivation beyond their own self-interest.
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Nothing "happened" to me 
Think what you will. There's always two sides to things.
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And thanks, but my life is fun and interesting and happy already
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If you were truly "happy" you wouldnt spend so much time gossiping about others and constantly running them down.
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01/03/10, 09:36 PM
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I went and tried to check out the guy's book. Honestly, I couldn't really understand what it was about, and so I went and watched his lecture on TED, and still couldn't really understand what his point was, so I guess I'm never destined to have a 4-hour work week.
And frankly, after a long time of economic struggle, devastation and unemployment, I'm pleased as punch to have a full time job which pays well and which I love!
The author also says it is ridiculous for people to talk about wanting their work be something they love to do, that the only job people want is the job which requires the least hours.
I don't know. I think that is kind of sad. I have usually loved my work. But then, I made my own work because I had my own businesses, so I made them how I wanted them to be. (The present work is an exception -- I actually work for someone else.) When I grew out of the job or decided it no longer suited, I did something else.
Anyway, that is all I was able to glean from the author's website and TED lecture. Perhaps I'm just not "with it".
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01/03/10, 10:38 PM
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Snoozy,
It appears to be a site promoting a book explaining a profit maximization strategy that instead of generating more money and jobs, takes the perspective of making the same money a less efficient approach achieves in full time in less hours and the "profit" of the perspective is the added free time that can be achieved after getting the beans in the pot by using the strategies.
Few happy worker bees comprehend pareto efficiency, JIT inventory, drop shipping , outsourcing and income stream maximization through retention of only the most profitable lines because they are happy as long as whoever they work for has a job for them to do.
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Well, it's certainly not for everyone, but as I'll never be the "worker bee" type, the theories found in the book are right up my alley. I don't agree with everything - snoozy, I'm with you - I LOVE the work I do and can't wait to do more of it whenever I get the chance. It's about establishing margin in your life - giving yourself freedom to break out of the mold.
The contest is over now, though the winner hasn't been announced yet. However, the contest itself was a masterful example of the creative strategies Ferriss employs to "build buzz" and sell books. For a wad of frequent flier miles, he ended up with hundreds of thousands of new visitors to his site, many of whom, like this friend of mine, ended up buying his book.
And that, my friends, is pure genius.
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